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Flight crew disagrees with airline management policy and interpretation of the FARS regarding flight crew work scheduling.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 276636 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199407 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cmh |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 276636 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The crew came on duty at XA25 pm local on jul/xx/94. We did a continuous overnight (stand-up) getting off duty at AB40 am. The crew's and alpa's interpretation of the FARS show that if we are on duty for more than 15 hours that we need compensatory rest (24 hour look back). Our company chief pilot and director of flight operations interprets the FARS to say that if you were off duty before the stand up, that the 24 hour look back and the compensatory rest do not apply. We are told if we refuse the trip due to far interpretation that we will be terminated. The companies 'new' interpretation of these FARS started in late april when they received a letter from the company's poi on this subject. Alpa has asked that all pilots involved in this situation to ask the company to send an e-mail message to us stating that they are changing the FARS. The company has refused.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DISAGREES WITH AIRLINE MGMNT POLICY AND INTERP OF THE FARS REGARDING FLC WORK SCHEDULING.
Narrative: THE CREW CAME ON DUTY AT XA25 PM LCL ON JUL/XX/94. WE DID A CONTINUOUS OVERNIGHT (STAND-UP) GETTING OFF DUTY AT AB40 AM. THE CREW'S AND ALPA'S INTERP OF THE FARS SHOW THAT IF WE ARE ON DUTY FOR MORE THAN 15 HRS THAT WE NEED COMPENSATORY REST (24 HR LOOK BACK). OUR COMPANY CHIEF PLT AND DIRECTOR OF FLT OPS INTERPRETS THE FARS TO SAY THAT IF YOU WERE OFF DUTY BEFORE THE STAND UP, THAT THE 24 HR LOOK BACK AND THE COMPENSATORY REST DO NOT APPLY. WE ARE TOLD IF WE REFUSE THE TRIP DUE TO FAR INTERP THAT WE WILL BE TERMINATED. THE COMPANIES 'NEW' INTERP OF THESE FARS STARTED IN LATE APRIL WHEN THEY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE COMPANY'S POI ON THIS SUBJECT. ALPA HAS ASKED THAT ALL PLTS INVOLVED IN THIS SIT TO ASK THE COMPANY TO SEND AN E-MAIL MESSAGE TO US STATING THAT THEY ARE CHANGING THE FARS. THE COMPANY HAS REFUSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.