PA24 had near midair collision with military helicopter in air traffic area. Evasive action taken. S...

Attributes
ACN	274080
Time
Date	199406
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : lns
State Reference	PA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : lns
Operator	other
Make Model Name	S-70 Black Hawk/Night Hawk/Sea Hawk
Operating Under FAR Part	other : other
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	PA-24 Comanche
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : local
Qualification	controller : non radar
Experience	controller military : 4 controller non radar : 16
ASRS Report	274080
Person 2
Affiliation	government : military
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : military
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 100 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Military X UH60 pattern work (training). Pilot earlier was issued left traffic runway 26, entered left traffic runway 8. UH60 was extended downwind for traffic. PA24 VFR inbound reported 5 mi east for runway 26 (2ND call and report as requested). Traffic was exchanged. Both aircraft acknowledged. PA24 then said UH60 was coming at him. Military trainers are bad news. They do not have a clue. VFR civil have false sense that all towers have radar (BRITE) capability. Visibility was poor with haze. But, as a pilot and controller, how can you not see a UH60? Almost in your face!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PA24 HAD NMAC WITH MIL HELI IN ATA. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.

Narrative: MIL X UH60 PATTERN WORK (TRAINING). PLT EARLIER WAS ISSUED L TFC RWY 26, ENTERED L TFC RWY 8. UH60 WAS EXTENDED DOWNWIND FOR TFC. PA24 VFR INBOUND RPTED 5 MI E FOR RWY 26 (2ND CALL AND RPT AS REQUESTED). TFC WAS EXCHANGED. BOTH ACFT ACKNOWLEDGED. PA24 THEN SAID UH60 WAS COMING AT HIM. MIL TRAINERS ARE BAD NEWS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE. VFR CIVIL HAVE FALSE SENSE THAT ALL TWRS HAVE RADAR (BRITE) CAPABILITY. VISIBILITY WAS POOR WITH HAZE. BUT, AS A PLT AND CTLR, HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE A UH60? ALMOST IN YOUR FACE!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

PA24 had near midair collision with military helicopter in air traffic area. Evasive action taken. See and avoid concept.