Air carrier X taxied off runway after asking for 2 min separation behind a B747.

Attributes
ACN	271769
Time
Date	199404
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	271769
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Air carrier X was told 'position and hold' runway 31L at intersection of runway 22R. We were following a heavy 747 that had just taken off. We asked for 2 mins behind the heavy. Tower said ok. Tower then pulled us off the runway for no reason. No airplanes took off for another 3 mins. We were made to wait and follow 5 other airplanes. Tower was just aggravated because we wanted a 2 min waiting period. Tower was making an attempt to intimidate us into doing things 'their way.' there is no place in commercial aviation for that type of behavior. In my 21 yrs, no one has ever refused me the 2 min call on request. In this jfk case the winds were light and wake vortices can linger longer. It is my impression that this incident was caused by controller arrogance and is totally unacceptable. Tower was clearing aircraft for takeoff after heavies with a 1 min interval. TCASII showed 2.5 mi.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR X TAXIED OFF RWY AFTER ASKING FOR 2 MIN SEPARATION BEHIND A B747.

Narrative: ACR X WAS TOLD 'POS AND HOLD' RWY 31L AT INTXN OF RWY 22R. WE WERE FOLLOWING A HVY 747 THAT HAD JUST TAKEN OFF. WE ASKED FOR 2 MINS BEHIND THE HVY. TWR SAID OK. TWR THEN PULLED US OFF THE RWY FOR NO REASON. NO AIRPLANES TOOK OFF FOR ANOTHER 3 MINS. WE WERE MADE TO WAIT AND FOLLOW 5 OTHER AIRPLANES. TWR WAS JUST AGGRAVATED BECAUSE WE WANTED A 2 MIN WAITING PERIOD. TWR WAS MAKING AN ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE US INTO DOING THINGS 'THEIR WAY.' THERE IS NO PLACE IN COMMERCIAL AVIATION FOR THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. IN MY 21 YRS, NO ONE HAS EVER REFUSED ME THE 2 MIN CALL ON REQUEST. IN THIS JFK CASE THE WINDS WERE LIGHT AND WAKE VORTICES CAN LINGER LONGER. IT IS MY IMPRESSION THAT THIS INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY CTLR ARROGANCE AND IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. TWR WAS CLRING ACFT FOR TKOF AFTER HEAVIES WITH A 1 MIN INTERVAL. TCASII SHOWED 2.5 MI.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.