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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 270567 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199405 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cxr |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 26000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 4 controller radar : 1 |
| ASRS Report | 270567 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X B727 was proceeding on course swbound at FL260. DC9 was climbing off of dtw behind X. Due to a cleveland radar outage, Y's target 'jumped' toward X's target therefore making it appear that a loss of separation had occurred. It appeared as if there was only a couple mi of separation and only 200 ft vertically. When there is a radar outage, targets 'swap' with each other, jump around, etc. Is the mosaic from the more distant radar sites reliable and accurate? It was shocking to watch these 2 targets get so close so suddenly that there wasn't much that I could do.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC EQUIP PROB RADAR FAILED CAUSED TARGET JUMP WHEN DIFFERENT REMOTE RADAR SITE USED.
Narrative: ACR X B727 WAS PROCEEDING ON COURSE SWBOUND AT FL260. DC9 WAS CLBING OFF OF DTW BEHIND X. DUE TO A CLEVELAND RADAR OUTAGE, Y'S TARGET 'JUMPED' TOWARD X'S TARGET THEREFORE MAKING IT APPEAR THAT A LOSS OF SEPARATION HAD OCCURRED. IT APPEARED AS IF THERE WAS ONLY A COUPLE MI OF SEPARATION AND ONLY 200 FT VERTICALLY. WHEN THERE IS A RADAR OUTAGE, TARGETS 'SWAP' WITH EACH OTHER, JUMP AROUND, ETC. IS THE MOSAIC FROM THE MORE DISTANT RADAR SITES RELIABLE AND ACCURATE? IT WAS SHOCKING TO WATCH THESE 2 TARGETS GET SO CLOSE SO SUDDENLY THAT THERE WASN'T MUCH THAT I COULD DO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.