Engine overtemp on start.

Attributes
ACN	269230
Time
Date	199404
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767-300 and 300 ER
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 170
ASRS Report	269230
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

I thought we had a normal start on right engine as egt, RPM, oil pressure looked normal and the starter kicked off automatically as it does on the B767. I then started the left engine. As I was watching the left engine start, I noticed the right engine egt exceed its start limit. I immediately shut down the right engine. Maximum egt for start is 535 degrees -- I estimate the egt got to 540 degrees for just a few seconds. It's not in our manual, but we should always watch for the egt to start falling before continuing the next start or the after start check list. I also thought hot starts happened quickly, but on this one the egt came up very slowly -- the left engine was almost started before the egt on right engine exceeded its limit.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ENG OVERTEMP ON START.

Narrative: I THOUGHT WE HAD A NORMAL START ON R ENG AS EGT, RPM, OIL PRESSURE LOOKED NORMAL AND THE STARTER KICKED OFF AUTOMATICALLY AS IT DOES ON THE B767. I THEN STARTED THE L ENG. AS I WAS WATCHING THE L ENG START, I NOTICED THE R ENG EGT EXCEED ITS START LIMIT. I IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN THE R ENG. MAX EGT FOR START IS 535 DEGS -- I ESTIMATE THE EGT GOT TO 540 DEGS FOR JUST A FEW SECONDS. IT'S NOT IN OUR MANUAL, BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS WATCH FOR THE EGT TO START FALLING BEFORE CONTINUING THE NEXT START OR THE AFTER START CHK LIST. I ALSO THOUGHT HOT STARTS HAPPENED QUICKLY, BUT ON THIS ONE THE EGT CAME UP VERY SLOWLY -- THE L ENG WAS ALMOST STARTED BEFORE THE EGT ON R ENG EXCEEDED ITS LIMIT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.