Narrative:

On thursday, apr/thu/94, I was to give a lesson to a perspective private pilot in her own airplane, a PA28-180. This student decided to do some solo practice (which I had signed her off for) before the lesson with me. I saw her on final when I was with another student entering the pattern at the same airport. Apparently, the solo student in her cherokee had landed without incident, but on her rollout went off the pavement a bit. I didn't know this, but another CFI ready for departure had given me this information later that day. The student arrived at the FBO with her airplane shortly after that, ready to take her lesson with me after her solo practice. The lesson went without incident, we practiced lndgs at brighton, another nearby uncontrolled airport. We were particularly careful when taxiing on the grass txwys, and avoiding any pebbles etc, that may have been picked up by the propeller. Upon returning to Y47 (new hudson), she taxied us up to the fuel pumps and shut down the airplane. As we departed the aircraft, the fueler questioned us, 'what happened?' we didn't know what he meant by that until he pointed out to the propeller, whose last inch off each end was curled under. Of course my student and I were curious as to how it happened. We hadn't heard the sound of a propeller strike (I had have the misfortune of hearing that sound before). The a and P at the FBO said that by the way the propeller tips were curled, it appeared to happen at a phase of flight when the power was off. The incident probably occurred on landing, they said. After a few days of investigation, the determination was that my student, on her solo had damaged the propeller on the rollout I described earlier. As a CFI, I often take the student's word, that yes, the airplane had a proper preflight. I usually don't do the preflight over again, but occasionally I'll double check fuel or oil quantities. I will probably look a bit more carefully at the general condition of an airplane before I fly it, even if a student claims to have already done a complete preflight.

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Title: ACFT DAMAGED DURING RWY EXCURSION. PROP STRIKE. LOSS OF ACFT CTL.

Narrative: ON THURSDAY, APR/THU/94, I WAS TO GIVE A LESSON TO A PERSPECTIVE PVT PLT IN HER OWN AIRPLANE, A PA28-180. THIS STUDENT DECIDED TO DO SOME SOLO PRACTICE (WHICH I HAD SIGNED HER OFF FOR) BEFORE THE LESSON WITH ME. I SAW HER ON FINAL WHEN I WAS WITH ANOTHER STUDENT ENTERING THE PATTERN AT THE SAME ARPT. APPARENTLY, THE SOLO STUDENT IN HER CHEROKEE HAD LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT, BUT ON HER ROLLOUT WENT OFF THE PAVEMENT A BIT. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT ANOTHER CFI READY FOR DEP HAD GIVEN ME THIS INFO LATER THAT DAY. THE STUDENT ARRIVED AT THE FBO WITH HER AIRPLANE SHORTLY AFTER THAT, READY TO TAKE HER LESSON WITH ME AFTER HER SOLO PRACTICE. THE LESSON WENT WITHOUT INCIDENT, WE PRACTICED LNDGS AT BRIGHTON, ANOTHER NEARBY UNCTLED ARPT. WE WERE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL WHEN TAXIING ON THE GRASS TXWYS, AND AVOIDING ANY PEBBLES ETC, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PICKED UP BY THE PROP. UPON RETURNING TO Y47 (NEW HUDSON), SHE TAXIED US UP TO THE FUEL PUMPS AND SHUT DOWN THE AIRPLANE. AS WE DEPARTED THE ACFT, THE FUELER QUESTIONED US, 'WHAT HAPPENED?' WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT UNTIL HE POINTED OUT TO THE PROP, WHOSE LAST INCH OFF EACH END WAS CURLED UNDER. OF COURSE MY STUDENT AND I WERE CURIOUS AS TO HOW IT HAPPENED. WE HADN'T HEARD THE SOUND OF A PROP STRIKE (I HAD HAVE THE MISFORTUNE OF HEARING THAT SOUND BEFORE). THE A AND P AT THE FBO SAID THAT BY THE WAY THE PROP TIPS WERE CURLED, IT APPEARED TO HAPPEN AT A PHASE OF FLT WHEN THE PWR WAS OFF. THE INCIDENT PROBABLY OCCURRED ON LNDG, THEY SAID. AFTER A FEW DAYS OF INVESTIGATION, THE DETERMINATION WAS THAT MY STUDENT, ON HER SOLO HAD DAMAGED THE PROP ON THE ROLLOUT I DESCRIBED EARLIER. AS A CFI, I OFTEN TAKE THE STUDENT'S WORD, THAT YES, THE AIRPLANE HAD A PROPER PREFLT. I USUALLY DON'T DO THE PREFLT OVER AGAIN, BUT OCCASIONALLY I'LL DOUBLE CHK FUEL OR OIL QUANTITIES. I WILL PROBABLY LOOK A BIT MORE CAREFULLY AT THE GENERAL CONDITION OF AN AIRPLANE BEFORE I FLY IT, EVEN IF A STUDENT CLAIMS TO HAVE ALREADY DONE A COMPLETE PREFLT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.