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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 263078 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199402 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 180 |
| ASRS Report | 263078 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The WX this day was snowy, freezing precipitation, poor visibility and runway conditions as well as ramp conditions. We (the captain and I) had just come in from a flight and shutdown and unloaded our passenger. We were refueled and the captain went inside the terminal to receive flight release and WX while I cleaned up the aircraft for the next flight. I had to use the men's room inside the terminal, so I went upstairs. While inside, the gate agents announced the boarding of our outbound flight. I was not aware or had communicated to anyone that we were ready to board. The captain must be supervising the boarding -- I presumed. So I hurried downstairs to the ramp to the aircraft. Passenger were boarding with the captain at the bottom of the stairs. A dehavilland dhc-8 was being deiced upwind in front of us. Deicing fluid mist was traveling downwind over the passenger of our aircraft as they boarded. I happened to inhale some of this mist which subsequently irritated my lungs. I was concerned about the safety of the passenger and believed they should not have been boarded by the ramp/gate people while this deicing was taking place ahead of us. The ramp people are new and inexperienced. I am concerned about the possible health hazards of inhaling deicing chemicals and the exposure of passenger and flight crew members to this -- unnecessary due to bad boarding procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BOARDING PAX WHILE ACFT AT ADJOINING GATE DEICING.
Narrative: THE WX THIS DAY WAS SNOWY, FREEZING PRECIPITATION, POOR VISIBILITY AND RWY CONDITIONS AS WELL AS RAMP CONDITIONS. WE (THE CAPT AND I) HAD JUST COME IN FROM A FLT AND SHUTDOWN AND UNLOADED OUR PAX. WE WERE REFUELED AND THE CAPT WENT INSIDE THE TERMINAL TO RECEIVE FLT RELEASE AND WX WHILE I CLEANED UP THE ACFT FOR THE NEXT FLT. I HAD TO USE THE MEN'S ROOM INSIDE THE TERMINAL, SO I WENT UPSTAIRS. WHILE INSIDE, THE GATE AGENTS ANNOUNCED THE BOARDING OF OUR OUTBOUND FLT. I WAS NOT AWARE OR HAD COMMUNICATED TO ANYONE THAT WE WERE READY TO BOARD. THE CAPT MUST BE SUPERVISING THE BOARDING -- I PRESUMED. SO I HURRIED DOWNSTAIRS TO THE RAMP TO THE ACFT. PAX WERE BOARDING WITH THE CAPT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STAIRS. A DEHAVILLAND DHC-8 WAS BEING DEICED UPWIND IN FRONT OF US. DEICING FLUID MIST WAS TRAVELING DOWNWIND OVER THE PAX OF OUR ACFT AS THEY BOARDED. I HAPPENED TO INHALE SOME OF THIS MIST WHICH SUBSEQUENTLY IRRITATED MY LUNGS. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PAX AND BELIEVED THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BOARDED BY THE RAMP/GATE PEOPLE WHILE THIS DEICING WAS TAKING PLACE AHEAD OF US. THE RAMP PEOPLE ARE NEW AND INEXPERIENCED. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE HEALTH HAZARDS OF INHALING DEICING CHEMICALS AND THE EXPOSURE OF PAX AND FLC MEMBERS TO THIS -- UNNECESSARY DUE TO BAD BOARDING PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.