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Error admitted in wrong runway approach resulting in a TCASII RA and a wake up call from the tower controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 261102 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199401 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 261102 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 900 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This was the last leg of a 7 day international trip with multiple time zone xings. The trip is as follows: lax-sfo-cdg-ord- cdg-lax. It is extremely grueling. We were approaching lax from the north, over smo VOR. Approaching smo we were assigned runway 24R. We requested runway 25L to reduce taxi time after landing, but our request was denied. The captain was hand flying the airplane. He acknowledged that our request for runway 25L had been denied. On base, approach control asked if we had the airport in sight, which we did. He cleared us for the visual to runway 24R. He then asked us if we had the traffic in sight for wry 25L, which we did not, as we told approach. On base, it became apparent that we were going to overshoot, but I thought the captain was just failing to compensate for the northerly crosswind. Apparently, though, he had it in his mind that we were cleared to runway 25L. As we lined up on runway 25L we got TCASII warnings and a call from the tower, who said she had us both in sight. We corrected back to runway 24R and landed uneventfully. I believe we were all 3 slow to react because of extreme fatigue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ERROR ADMITTED IN WRONG RWY APCH RESULTING IN A TCASII RA AND A WAKE UP CALL FROM THE TWR CTLR.
Narrative: THIS WAS THE LAST LEG OF A 7 DAY INTL TRIP WITH MULTIPLE TIME ZONE XINGS. THE TRIP IS AS FOLLOWS: LAX-SFO-CDG-ORD- CDG-LAX. IT IS EXTREMELY GRUELING. WE WERE APCHING LAX FROM THE N, OVER SMO VOR. APCHING SMO WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 24R. WE REQUESTED RWY 25L TO REDUCE TAXI TIME AFTER LNDG, BUT OUR REQUEST WAS DENIED. THE CAPT WAS HAND FLYING THE AIRPLANE. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT OUR REQUEST FOR RWY 25L HAD BEEN DENIED. ON BASE, APCH CTL ASKED IF WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT, WHICH WE DID. HE CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 24R. HE THEN ASKED US IF WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT FOR WRY 25L, WHICH WE DID NOT, AS WE TOLD APCH. ON BASE, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO OVERSHOOT, BUT I THOUGHT THE CAPT WAS JUST FAILING TO COMPENSATE FOR THE NORTHERLY XWIND. APPARENTLY, THOUGH, HE HAD IT IN HIS MIND THAT WE WERE CLRED TO RWY 25L. AS WE LINED UP ON RWY 25L WE GOT TCASII WARNINGS AND A CALL FROM THE TWR, WHO SAID SHE HAD US BOTH IN SIGHT. WE CORRECTED BACK TO RWY 24R AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. I BELIEVE WE WERE ALL 3 SLOW TO REACT BECAUSE OF EXTREME FATIGUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.