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Flight crew of a widebody transport air carrier aircraft dumped fuel and returned to land after failure of 1 of the 4 engines.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 258239 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199311 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 280 |
| ASRS Report | 258239 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
#2 engine failed at rotation. First officer (me) was flying, dumped 200000 pounds of fuel and returned to ord. Fortunately, we had 2 relief pilots on board so they functioned as flight engineer's. Given that I make few lndgs, this was #11, I would have felt overloaded had there only been 2 pilots. I was also lucky because the day before I had been to the simulator for 3 lndgs. I was about to become non-current (less than 3 lndgs in 90 days). I have operated 2-MAN airplanes before and enjoyed them. This airplane is different. This 2-MAN operation is not safe due to reduced first officer proficiency and complexity of international operations. Short segments (nrt-mnl, tpe-bkk) are operated with no relief pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A WDB ACR ACFT DUMPED FUEL AND RETURNED TO LAND AFTER FAILURE OF 1 OF THE 4 ENGS.
Narrative: #2 ENG FAILED AT ROTATION. FO (ME) WAS FLYING, DUMPED 200000 LBS OF FUEL AND RETURNED TO ORD. FORTUNATELY, WE HAD 2 RELIEF PLTS ON BOARD SO THEY FUNCTIONED AS FE'S. GIVEN THAT I MAKE FEW LNDGS, THIS WAS #11, I WOULD HAVE FELT OVERLOADED HAD THERE ONLY BEEN 2 PLTS. I WAS ALSO LUCKY BECAUSE THE DAY BEFORE I HAD BEEN TO THE SIMULATOR FOR 3 LNDGS. I WAS ABOUT TO BECOME NON-CURRENT (LESS THAN 3 LNDGS IN 90 DAYS). I HAVE OPERATED 2-MAN AIRPLANES BEFORE AND ENJOYED THEM. THIS AIRPLANE IS DIFFERENT. THIS 2-MAN OP IS NOT SAFE DUE TO REDUCED FO PROFICIENCY AND COMPLEXITY OF INTL OPS. SHORT SEGMENTS (NRT-MNL, TPE-BKK) ARE OPERATED WITH NO RELIEF PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.