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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 256139 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199310 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : etx |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zny |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private |
| Experience | controller radar : 7 flight time last 90 days : 0 flight time total : 120 flight time type : 0 |
| ASRS Report | 256139 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 22680 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Light transport X was proceeding nebound at 17000 crossing the milton 7 arrival route into lga. The high altitude sector handed off medium large transport Y descending to FL190. Medium large transport Y needed to be descended to 13000 (a standard crossing restriction is most often used). At the time medium large transport Y called me I was distracted by a spacing problem elsewhere in my sector. I subsequently issued a standard crossing restriction to medium large transport Y, thinking he was higher than he was. Due to choppy conditions at FL190, medium large transport Y elected to begin his descent right away and vertical separation was lost before lateral separation was achieved. In summary, I made a couple of different errors in this situation. I misinterpreted the radar data block and speed differential of medium large transport Y due to my preoccupation with the other spacing problem in my sector, I made a hasty decision that turned out to be an error in judgement. In the future I will not discontinue my vertical separation until lateral has been completely achieved. I also will try not to take things for granted as much as I seem to lately. (I.e., in most cases, acrs on the milton 7 arrival don't start down right away to make the crossing restriction).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC CTLR DSNDED AN MLG THROUGH LTT ALT WITH LTSS.
Narrative: LTT X WAS PROCEEDING NEBOUND AT 17000 XING THE MILTON 7 ARR RTE INTO LGA. THE HIGH ALT SECTOR HANDED OFF MLG Y DSNDING TO FL190. MLG Y NEEDED TO BE DSNDED TO 13000 (A STANDARD XING RESTRICTION IS MOST OFTEN USED). AT THE TIME MLG Y CALLED ME I WAS DISTRACTED BY A SPACING PROB ELSEWHERE IN MY SECTOR. I SUBSEQUENTLY ISSUED A STANDARD XING RESTRICTION TO MLG Y, THINKING HE WAS HIGHER THAN HE WAS. DUE TO CHOPPY CONDITIONS AT FL190, MLG Y ELECTED TO BEGIN HIS DSCNT RIGHT AWAY AND VERT SEPARATION WAS LOST BEFORE LATERAL SEPARATION WAS ACHIEVED. IN SUMMARY, I MADE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ERRORS IN THIS SIT. I MISINTERPRETED THE RADAR DATA BLOCK AND SPD DIFFERENTIAL OF MLG Y DUE TO MY PREOCCUPATION WITH THE OTHER SPACING PROB IN MY SECTOR, I MADE A HASTY DECISION THAT TURNED OUT TO BE AN ERROR IN JUDGEMENT. IN THE FUTURE I WILL NOT DISCONTINUE MY VERT SEPARATION UNTIL LATERAL HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ACHIEVED. I ALSO WILL TRY NOT TO TAKE THINGS FOR GRANTED AS MUCH AS I SEEM TO LATELY. (I.E., IN MOST CASES, ACRS ON THE MILTON 7 ARR DON'T START DOWN RIGHT AWAY TO MAKE THE XING RESTRICTION).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.