Air show fgt's have conflict with air carrier aircraft in TCA. See and avoid concept.

Attributes
ACN	254235
Time
Date	199310
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : hnl
State Reference	HI
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : hnl tower : hnl
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Fighter
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
ASRS Report	254235
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : local
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 7500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

Military fgt's practicing air show at nax. Airspace is 5 NM from runway center to 16000 ft. Hnl is arriving on runway 4R (ILS) with all aircraft. Air carrier's were on converging courses (communicating with hnl TRACON or ATCT). The military fgt's were on nax ATCT or gca frequencys performing high speed maneuvers. The arriving hnl aircraft were missed by the blue angel aircraft, all within 1 - 1 1/4 mi and less than 1000 ft. The approach controller and tower controllers were barely able to issue TA's to the arrival aircraft due to the high speeds and unknown maneuvers which were being performed. Due to the VFR of hawaii, traffic was observed by the arrival aircraft but by then it was too late, you couldn't miss them. Hnl airport should have been closed during the air show with the overlapping airspace. Hopefully this will be the last poor planning and mismgmnt of airspace.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AIR SHOW FGT'S HAVE CONFLICT WITH ACR ACFT IN TCA. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.

Narrative: MIL FGT'S PRACTICING AIR SHOW AT NAX. AIRSPACE IS 5 NM FROM RWY CTR TO 16000 FT. HNL IS ARRIVING ON RWY 4R (ILS) WITH ALL ACFT. ACR'S WERE ON CONVERGING COURSES (COMMUNICATING WITH HNL TRACON OR ATCT). THE MIL FGT'S WERE ON NAX ATCT OR GCA FREQS PERFORMING HIGH SPD MANEUVERS. THE ARRIVING HNL ACFT WERE MISSED BY THE BLUE ANGEL ACFT, ALL WITHIN 1 - 1 1/4 MI AND LESS THAN 1000 FT. THE APCH CTLR AND TWR CTLRS WERE BARELY ABLE TO ISSUE TA'S TO THE ARR ACFT DUE TO THE HIGH SPDS AND UNKNOWN MANEUVERS WHICH WERE BEING PERFORMED. DUE TO THE VFR OF HAWAII, TFC WAS OBSERVED BY THE ARR ACFT BUT BY THEN IT WAS TOO LATE, YOU COULDN'T MISS THEM. HNL ARPT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED DURING THE AIR SHOW WITH THE OVERLAPPING AIRSPACE. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LAST POOR PLANNING AND MISMGMNT OF AIRSPACE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.