Flight crew of an medium large transport air carrier aircraft climbed during approach in response to...

Attributes
ACN	247368
Time
Date	199307
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ewr
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12700 flight time type : 6400
ASRS Report	247368
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 12000 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Advised by approach 128.55 of traffic ahead and below. Before we sighted traffic, TCASII commanded 'climb, climb' 1500 FPM climb. Initiated climb. At 3500 ft 'monitor vertical speed' then 'clear of conflict.' first officer advised approach of climbing to meet RA. Approach said 'I hope you don't pop someone.' after RA, returned to 3000 ft, continued approach and landing. Just before we switched to tower at marker, heard another airliner declare RA and could hear TCASII 'climb, climb' in backgnd. Approach admonished him he could not guarantee airspace protection and pilot said 'we have to follow an RA.' approach told him 'you're on your own.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN MLG ACR ACFT CLBED DURING APCH IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA.

Narrative: ADVISED BY APCH 128.55 OF TFC AHEAD AND BELOW. BEFORE WE SIGHTED TFC, TCASII COMMANDED 'CLB, CLB' 1500 FPM CLB. INITIATED CLB. AT 3500 FT 'MONITOR VERT SPD' THEN 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' FO ADVISED APCH OF CLBING TO MEET RA. APCH SAID 'I HOPE YOU DON'T POP SOMEONE.' AFTER RA, RETURNED TO 3000 FT, CONTINUED APCH AND LNDG. JUST BEFORE WE SWITCHED TO TWR AT MARKER, HEARD ANOTHER AIRLINER DECLARE RA AND COULD HEAR TCASII 'CLB, CLB' IN BACKGND. APCH ADMONISHED HIM HE COULD NOT GUARANTEE AIRSPACE PROTECTION AND PLT SAID 'WE HAVE TO FOLLOW AN RA.' APCH TOLD HIM 'YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Flight crew of an medium large transport air carrier aircraft climbed during approach in response to a TCASII RA.