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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 247088 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199307 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fwa |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zav tower : mlb |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 247088 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 246940 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During climb out to FL230, first chi controller said to 'expect higher with next controller.' switched frequency but no climb. Changed frequency again and still no climb was given. About 3-5 mins later, center asked our passing altitude -- we responded FL222 for FL230. He then told us to maintain FL230 and asked flight Y his altitude. He said FL230. At this time TCASII alerted us and center told us to turn left to 090 degrees, and flight Y to turn to 210 degrees. Later he told us to expedite our turns. We told center we had flight Y in sight. At no time was there any conflict other than 'snitch' and it appeared we were 5 mi apart. It's my guess that the second center controller was supposed to give us a climb and to expedite same to clear flight Y but never told us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLB TO OCCUPIED ALT WITH OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC REQUIRES EVASIVE ACTION TURN ON ARTCC RADAR CTLR'S AMENDED CLRNC HDG. SAME ASSIGNED ALT. SAME ALT TFC.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT TO FL230, FIRST CHI CTLR SAID TO 'EXPECT HIGHER WITH NEXT CTLR.' SWITCHED FREQ BUT NO CLB. CHANGED FREQ AGAIN AND STILL NO CLB WAS GIVEN. ABOUT 3-5 MINS LATER, CTR ASKED OUR PASSING ALT -- WE RESPONDED FL222 FOR FL230. HE THEN TOLD US TO MAINTAIN FL230 AND ASKED FLT Y HIS ALT. HE SAID FL230. AT THIS TIME TCASII ALERTED US AND CTR TOLD US TO TURN L TO 090 DEGS, AND FLT Y TO TURN TO 210 DEGS. LATER HE TOLD US TO EXPEDITE OUR TURNS. WE TOLD CTR WE HAD FLT Y IN SIGHT. AT NO TIME WAS THERE ANY CONFLICT OTHER THAN 'SNITCH' AND IT APPEARED WE WERE 5 MI APART. IT'S MY GUESS THAT THE SECOND CTR CTLR WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US A CLB AND TO EXPEDITE SAME TO CLR FLT Y BUT NEVER TOLD US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.