Dispatch report regarding flight crew acceptance of oceanic route which was not legal.

Attributes
ACN	246755
Time
Date	199307
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 33000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic enroute airway : zny
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	other personnel
Qualification	other other : other
ASRS Report	246755
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 100
ASRS Report	246602
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

The flight was en route from jfk to position. The flight contacted me via datalink to advise that they had accepted a rerte along A632. A632 is not suitable for the widebody transport aircraft because it takes the flight more than 60 mins from an adequate airport. I attempted to contact the flight via datalink but was not successful. I called new york oceanic and requested that they route the flight from overhead bda along G432 to the grann intersection then A312. I contacted the flight through new york arinc and advised the crew of the rerte onto G432 and the reason for it. Supplemental information from acn 246602: ZNY advised us that our filed altitude would not be available unless we changed our routing to 'the ATC preferred route.' they offered us FL250 on the original route or FL330 on 'the preferred route.' we accepted the new routing based on the fuel burn to our destination. As soon as we accepted the new clearance we advised our dispatcher so that he could figure the new winds and fuel burn. At no time did we fly in violation, however, we accepted an illegal clearance. New york should not offer an unacceptable route and should be aware of this limitation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DISPATCH RPT REGARDING FLC ACCEPTANCE OF OCEANIC RTE WHICH WAS NOT LEGAL.

Narrative: THE FLT WAS ENRTE FROM JFK TO POS. THE FLT CONTACTED ME VIA DATALINK TO ADVISE THAT THEY HAD ACCEPTED A RERTE ALONG A632. A632 IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE WDB ACFT BECAUSE IT TAKES THE FLT MORE THAN 60 MINS FROM AN ADEQUATE ARPT. I ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT THE FLT VIA DATALINK BUT WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. I CALLED NEW YORK OCEANIC AND REQUESTED THAT THEY RTE THE FLT FROM OVERHEAD BDA ALONG G432 TO THE GRANN INTXN THEN A312. I CONTACTED THE FLT THROUGH NEW YORK ARINC AND ADVISED THE CREW OF THE RERTE ONTO G432 AND THE REASON FOR IT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 246602: ZNY ADVISED US THAT OUR FILED ALT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE UNLESS WE CHANGED OUR ROUTING TO 'THE ATC PREFERRED RTE.' THEY OFFERED US FL250 ON THE ORIGINAL RTE OR FL330 ON 'THE PREFERRED RTE.' WE ACCEPTED THE NEW ROUTING BASED ON THE FUEL BURN TO OUR DEST. AS SOON AS WE ACCEPTED THE NEW CLRNC WE ADVISED OUR DISPATCHER SO THAT HE COULD FIGURE THE NEW WINDS AND FUEL BURN. AT NO TIME DID WE FLY IN VIOLATION, HOWEVER, WE ACCEPTED AN ILLEGAL CLRNC. NEW YORK SHOULD NOT OFFER AN UNACCEPTABLE RTE AND SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS LIMITATION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.