Close proximity traffic issued by TCASII RA, opposite direction descending traffic.

Attributes
ACN	244123
Time
Date	199306
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : fim airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 16200 msl bound upper : 18000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zla
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	244123
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On descent into lax on the SADDE4 arrival I received a TCASII alert of traffic at 11 O'clock. I was descending through FL180. Immediately following the TA on the TCASII I received an RA of descent. I immediately deployed speed brakes and banked to the right. My first officer called traffic at 11 O'clock and it passed overhead shortly thereafter. I did see the traffic as we passed through his altitude. I was never issued a TA from the ATC controller (ZLA) until the traffic had passed overhead.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX TFC ISSUED BY TCASII RA, OPPOSITE DIRECTION DSNDING TFC.

Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO LAX ON THE SADDE4 ARR I RECEIVED A TCASII ALERT OF TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK. I WAS DSNDING THROUGH FL180. IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE TA ON THE TCASII I RECEIVED AN RA OF DSCNT. I IMMEDIATELY DEPLOYED SPD BRAKES AND BANKED TO THE R. MY FO CALLED TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK AND IT PASSED OVERHEAD SHORTLY THEREAFTER. I DID SEE THE TFC AS WE PASSED THROUGH HIS ALT. I WAS NEVER ISSUED A TA FROM THE ATC CTLR (ZLA) UNTIL THE TFC HAD PASSED OVERHEAD.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.