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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 243537 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199306 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : abq |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7300 msl bound upper : 7300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : abq |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| ASRS Report | 243537 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 9200 flight time type : 90 |
| ASRS Report | 243536 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Lifeguard small transport X was cleared for takeoff runway 21 at abq airport with instructions to turn right heading 310. Air carrier Y was on the downwind for runway 8 visual approach. Air carrier Y turned a 3 mi right base. Small transport X was issued traffic and reported the air carrier Y in sight and was told to maintain visual separation. The small transport X continued right turn and lost sight of air carrier Y in the turn. Traffic was issued to air carrier Y. Air carrier Y finally saw the small transport X and both took evasive action to avoid the other, then landed, and the small transport X continued on to their destination. The reasons I believe this happened was 1) small transport X lost sight of air carrier Y and did not advise ATC. 2) the controller put the small transport X in a bad situation by issuing the right turn. Should have issued a heading to pass behind air carrier Y. Supplemental information from acn 243536: small transport Y departed runway 21 with a climbing right turn to 310 degrees to intercept abq 340 degree radial. Passing through approximately 240 degree heading, air carrier Y was pointed out at 11 O'clock position -- (I acknowledged 'in sight' and was told to maintain 'visual separation'). Air carrier Y was, in my opinion, not a threat, so I continued a climbing turn and rolled out at approximately 300 degree heading to check for traffic. On rollout to wings level, I saw air carrier Y at 4 O'clock and the same altitude overtaking me and appeared to be starting a slight right wing low attitude. I banked hard right and saw the right wing of the air carrier Y come up as if he were making a hard left turn. I was on approach frequency 127.4 MHZ and the air carrier Y must have been on tower 118.3 MHZ
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC INSTRUCTION OF MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. HAD NMAC WITH ACR Y. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT. PLTDEV.
Narrative: LIFEGUARD SMT X WAS CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 21 AT ABQ ARPT WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN R HDG 310. ACR Y WAS ON THE DOWNWIND FOR RWY 8 VISUAL APCH. ACR Y TURNED A 3 MI R BASE. SMT X WAS ISSUED TFC AND RPTED THE ACR Y IN SIGHT AND WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. THE SMT X CONTINUED R TURN AND LOST SIGHT OF ACR Y IN THE TURN. TFC WAS ISSUED TO ACR Y. ACR Y FINALLY SAW THE SMT X AND BOTH TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID THE OTHER, THEN LANDED, AND THE SMT X CONTINUED ON TO THEIR DEST. THE REASONS I BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED WAS 1) SMT X LOST SIGHT OF ACR Y AND DID NOT ADVISE ATC. 2) THE CTLR PUT THE SMT X IN A BAD SIT BY ISSUING THE R TURN. SHOULD HAVE ISSUED A HDG TO PASS BEHIND ACR Y. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 243536: SMT Y DEPARTED RWY 21 WITH A CLBING R TURN TO 310 DEGS TO INTERCEPT ABQ 340 DEG RADIAL. PASSING THROUGH APPROX 240 DEG HDG, ACR Y WAS POINTED OUT AT 11 O'CLOCK POS -- (I ACKNOWLEDGED 'IN SIGHT' AND WAS TOLD TO MAINTAIN 'VISUAL SEPARATION'). ACR Y WAS, IN MY OPINION, NOT A THREAT, SO I CONTINUED A CLBING TURN AND ROLLED OUT AT APPROX 300 DEG HDG TO CHK FOR TFC. ON ROLLOUT TO WINGS LEVEL, I SAW ACR Y AT 4 O'CLOCK AND THE SAME ALT OVERTAKING ME AND APPEARED TO BE STARTING A SLIGHT R WING LOW ATTITUDE. I BANKED HARD R AND SAW THE R WING OF THE ACR Y COME UP AS IF HE WERE MAKING A HARD L TURN. I WAS ON APCH FREQ 127.4 MHZ AND THE ACR Y MUST HAVE BEEN ON TWR 118.3 MHZ
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.