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An air carrier large transport landed with another aircraft not quite off of the far end of the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 242428 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : iad |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 242428 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were on an ILS to runway 12 at iad, were cleared to land when we checked in with iad tower at the OM. An aircraft landed in front of us, and rolled to the end for turnoff. That aircraft was still on the runway when we touched down, but turning off. I had remembered a change in the 'rules' that allowed us to do this. I am now having second thoughts about this. I believe that this was a safe landing as the aircraft turned off shortly after we landed. This is a long runway (10500 ft) and is common practice to roll to the end.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT LANDED WITH ANOTHER ACFT NOT QUITE OFF OF THE FAR END OF THE RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE ON AN ILS TO RWY 12 AT IAD, WERE CLRED TO LAND WHEN WE CHKED IN WITH IAD TWR AT THE OM. AN ACFT LANDED IN FRONT OF US, AND ROLLED TO THE END FOR TURNOFF. THAT ACFT WAS STILL ON THE RWY WHEN WE TOUCHED DOWN, BUT TURNING OFF. I HAD REMEMBERED A CHANGE IN THE 'RULES' THAT ALLOWED US TO DO THIS. I AM NOW HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A SAFE LNDG AS THE ACFT TURNED OFF SHORTLY AFTER WE LANDED. THIS IS A LONG RWY (10500 FT) AND IS COMMON PRACTICE TO ROLL TO THE END.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.