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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 241728 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : tus |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 241728 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff at ewr runway 22R and climbing through 3500 ft, departure asked us what altitude we were cleared to. We told them '5000 ft' as published on the newark 4 departure. We then decided to look at our pre-departure clearance again and check for any altitude exception to the newark 4 departure which was 5000 ft. In the textual body of the pre-departure clearance was a 'M2500' after another exception of 'right 220 after 2 DME.' we felt that the abbreviation of 'maintain' to 'M' greatly affected our overlooking the 2500 ft exception to the ewr 4 departure altitude of 5000 ft. Both crew members felt that it was a very unsafe procedure to have a lower altitude level off only mentioned in an abbreviated pre-departure clearance in an already nonstandard departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DEVIATED FROM DEP CLRNC WHEN THEY OVERSHOT A CLB RESTRICTION.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF AT EWR RWY 22R AND CLBING THROUGH 3500 FT, DEP ASKED US WHAT ALT WE WERE CLRED TO. WE TOLD THEM '5000 FT' AS PUBLISHED ON THE NEWARK 4 DEP. WE THEN DECIDED TO LOOK AT OUR PRE-DEP CLRNC AGAIN AND CHK FOR ANY ALT EXCEPTION TO THE NEWARK 4 DEP WHICH WAS 5000 FT. IN THE TEXTUAL BODY OF THE PRE-DEP CLRNC WAS A 'M2500' AFTER ANOTHER EXCEPTION OF 'R 220 AFTER 2 DME.' WE FELT THAT THE ABBREVIATION OF 'MAINTAIN' TO 'M' GREATLY AFFECTED OUR OVERLOOKING THE 2500 FT EXCEPTION TO THE EWR 4 DEP ALT OF 5000 FT. BOTH CREW MEMBERS FELT THAT IT WAS A VERY UNSAFE PROC TO HAVE A LOWER ALT LEVEL OFF ONLY MENTIONED IN AN ABBREVIATED PRE-DEP CLRNC IN AN ALREADY NONSTANDARD DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.