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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 241404 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : hya |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 10 |
| ASRS Report | 241404 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
I was vectoring air carrier X sbound. I observed traffic 12 O'clock and 4 mi, crossing at the same altitude. To ensure separation, I tried to turn air carrier X behind the possibly conflicting traffic. He told me 'unable due to an RA.' had the pilot complied with my instructions, separation would never have been a factor. However, by the pilot refusing ATC instructions, I feel there may have been a loss of separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR ATTEMPTS TO TURN A COMMUTER LTT FOR TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK, PLT REFUSES TURN DUE TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: I WAS VECTORING ACR X SBOUND. I OBSERVED TFC 12 O'CLOCK AND 4 MI, XING AT THE SAME ALT. TO ENSURE SEPARATION, I TRIED TO TURN ACR X BEHIND THE POSSIBLY CONFLICTING TFC. HE TOLD ME 'UNABLE DUE TO AN RA.' HAD THE PLT COMPLIED WITH MY INSTRUCTIONS, SEPARATION WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN A FACTOR. HOWEVER, BY THE PLT REFUSING ATC INSTRUCTIONS, I FEEL THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A LOSS OF SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.