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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 240983 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199305 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival : profile descent arrival other enroute airway : lax |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3 |
| ASRS Report | 240983 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On my first trip after IOE, I was PF into lax. Approach control kept us high on the approach and when cleared to lower altitude I slowed to approximately 190 KTS to descend faster with flaps. I was unaware that we had been assigned 250 KTS. It was my captain's 3RD trip after IOE which he finished approximately 6 weeks ago. Once again, 2 inexperienced (in aircraft type) pilots shouldn't have been assigned to fly together.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF ACR LGT ACFT FAILED TO MAINTAIN DSCNT AIRSPD DURING A PROFILE DSCNT.
Narrative: ON MY FIRST TRIP AFTER IOE, I WAS PF INTO LAX. APCH CTL KEPT US HIGH ON THE APCH AND WHEN CLRED TO LOWER ALT I SLOWED TO APPROX 190 KTS TO DSND FASTER WITH FLAPS. I WAS UNAWARE THAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED 250 KTS. IT WAS MY CAPT'S 3RD TRIP AFTER IOE WHICH HE FINISHED APPROX 6 WKS AGO. ONCE AGAIN, 2 INEXPERIENCED (IN ACFT TYPE) PLTS SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO FLY TOGETHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.