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Pilot of small transport atx aircraft inadvertently penetrated a TCA during descent to a nearby airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 237397 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199303 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : phx airport : geu |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : luf |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 237397 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While maintaining an altitude above the phx TCA (10500 ft) I contacted phx approach on 128.65 and reported 45 mi southwest landing at glendale airport. I was instructed to contact phx approach on 124.1. Contact with this controller was made and I reported 40 southwest landing at glendale. This controller instructed me to contact luke approach on 120.5. Contact was made with luke approach and I received a transponder code. Luke approach instructed me to expedite descent to 5500 ft. It's during this descent and the fact that I wasn't talking to phx, and did not hear the magic words 'cleared into the TCA' that I feel it is possible to have entered the TCA without an official clearance. Although nothing occurred during radio xmissions to indicate I had, this descent from 10500 was uncomfortable to me. Was the clearance from luke to descend a clearance into the TCA?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMT ATX ACFT INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED A TCA DURING DSCNT TO A NEARBY ARPT.
Narrative: WHILE MAINTAINING AN ALT ABOVE THE PHX TCA (10500 FT) I CONTACTED PHX APCH ON 128.65 AND RPTED 45 MI SW LNDG AT GLENDALE ARPT. I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT PHX APCH ON 124.1. CONTACT WITH THIS CTLR WAS MADE AND I RPTED 40 SW LNDG AT GLENDALE. THIS CTLR INSTRUCTED ME TO CONTACT LUKE APCH ON 120.5. CONTACT WAS MADE WITH LUKE APCH AND I RECEIVED A XPONDER CODE. LUKE APCH INSTRUCTED ME TO EXPEDITE DSCNT TO 5500 FT. IT'S DURING THIS DSCNT AND THE FACT THAT I WASN'T TALKING TO PHX, AND DID NOT HEAR THE MAGIC WORDS 'CLRED INTO THE TCA' THAT I FEEL IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE ENTERED THE TCA WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL CLRNC. ALTHOUGH NOTHING OCCURRED DURING RADIO XMISSIONS TO INDICATE I HAD, THIS DSCNT FROM 10500 WAS UNCOMFORTABLE TO ME. WAS THE CLRNC FROM LUKE TO DSND A CLRNC INTO THE TCA?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.