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Captain of medium large transport air carrier aircraft was delayed turning on a visual special airport noise abatement procedure and inadvertently penetrated a prohibited airspace area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 205234 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199203 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dca |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure : noise abatement departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3300 |
| ASRS Report | 205234 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I am a check airman and was flying with a transition captain on an 'initial operating experience' trip as first officer. We had thoroughly briefed the noise abatement departure prior to taxi, and again reviewed procedure on taxi out. Perhaps owning to the fact that the captain trainee was new to aircraft and that our flight directors will not command a turn on takeoff prior to 400 ft AGL, I felt we were slightly late on our turn. Due to the high angle -- 20 degree nose up and approximately 25 degree bank -- I could not see the river bank on the right side, therefore I have no idea if we came too close to the lincoln memorial or not. I personally think our northwest departure and arrival procedures for dca are pretty lousy. We are the most technologically advanced nation in the world. We should be ashamed of the archaic procedures at the airport serving the capitol of our great nation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF MLG ACR ACFT WAS DELAYED TURNING ON A VISUAL SPECIAL ARPT NOISE ABATEMENT PROC AND INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED A PROHIBITED AIRSPACE AREA.
Narrative: I AM A CHK AIRMAN AND WAS FLYING WITH A TRANSITION CAPT ON AN 'INITIAL OPERATING EXPERIENCE' TRIP AS FO. WE HAD THOROUGHLY BRIEFED THE NOISE ABATEMENT DEP PRIOR TO TAXI, AND AGAIN REVIEWED PROC ON TAXI OUT. PERHAPS OWNING TO THE FACT THAT THE CAPT TRAINEE WAS NEW TO ACFT AND THAT OUR FLT DIRECTORS WILL NOT COMMAND A TURN ON TKOF PRIOR TO 400 FT AGL, I FELT WE WERE SLIGHTLY LATE ON OUR TURN. DUE TO THE HIGH ANGLE -- 20 DEG NOSE UP AND APPROX 25 DEG BANK -- I COULD NOT SEE THE RIVER BANK ON THE R SIDE, THEREFORE I HAVE NO IDEA IF WE CAME TOO CLOSE TO THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL OR NOT. I PERSONALLY THINK OUR NW DEP AND ARR PROCS FOR DCA ARE PRETTY LOUSY. WE ARE THE MOST TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED NATION IN THE WORLD. WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THE ARCHAIC PROCS AT THE ARPT SERVING THE CAPITOL OF OUR GREAT NATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.