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Medium large transport has runway change just as turning final, overshoots localizer. TCASII RA alert.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 229858 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199301 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 229858 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 100 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were 10000 ft and descending on right downwind at lax abeam the airport, all runways in sight. I accepted a stadium visual approach. Skies were clear of any clouds. Turning base and nearing final we could barely make out 1 pair of parallel runways belonging to lax. We were cleared for visual to 24R at first, but were assigned 24L just as I was turning a dogleg to final. While we were switching localizer frequencys, etc, I visually proceeded toward the runways on the dogleg heading. The 2 runways we had seen first turned out to be the lax south complex, runway 25L and 25R. As we were about 1500 ft right of the runway 25R final, about 5 or 6 mi out 3 things occurred simultaneously: ATC called instructing me to correct back to the right as I was left of the 24L course. TCASII went off 'climb, climb,' and I noticed traffic on the scope slightly to my left and about 1 mi behind, roughly the same altitude. The north complex (runway 24L, runway 24R) came into view. The TCASII switched to 'clear of conflict' almost immediately after the original 'climb' command. I corrected right, and we landed without further incident on 24L. Conclusion. Flying into lax requires more than the average preparation and planning, even on a day that at appears VFR plus at first.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG HAS RWY CHANGE JUST AS TURNING FINAL, OVERSHOOTS LOC. TCASII RA ALERT.
Narrative: WE WERE 10000 FT AND DSNDING ON R DOWNWIND AT LAX ABEAM THE ARPT, ALL RWYS IN SIGHT. I ACCEPTED A STADIUM VISUAL APCH. SKIES WERE CLR OF ANY CLOUDS. TURNING BASE AND NEARING FINAL WE COULD BARELY MAKE OUT 1 PAIR OF PARALLEL RWYS BELONGING TO LAX. WE WERE CLRED FOR VISUAL TO 24R AT FIRST, BUT WERE ASSIGNED 24L JUST AS I WAS TURNING A DOGLEG TO FINAL. WHILE WE WERE SWITCHING LOC FREQS, ETC, I VISUALLY PROCEEDED TOWARD THE RWYS ON THE DOGLEG HDG. THE 2 RWYS WE HAD SEEN FIRST TURNED OUT TO BE THE LAX S COMPLEX, RWY 25L AND 25R. AS WE WERE ABOUT 1500 FT RIGHT OF THE RWY 25R FINAL, ABOUT 5 OR 6 MI OUT 3 THINGS OCCURRED SIMULTANEOUSLY: ATC CALLED INSTRUCTING ME TO CORRECT BACK TO THE R AS I WAS L OF THE 24L COURSE. TCASII WENT OFF 'CLB, CLB,' AND I NOTICED TFC ON THE SCOPE SLIGHTLY TO MY L AND ABOUT 1 MI BEHIND, ROUGHLY THE SAME ALT. THE N COMPLEX (RWY 24L, RWY 24R) CAME INTO VIEW. THE TCASII SWITCHED TO 'CLR OF CONFLICT' ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ORIGINAL 'CLB' COMMAND. I CORRECTED R, AND WE LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT ON 24L. CONCLUSION. FLYING INTO LAX REQUIRES MORE THAN THE AVERAGE PREPARATION AND PLANNING, EVEN ON A DAY THAT AT APPEARS VFR PLUS AT FIRST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.