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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 228111 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199212 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : vld |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5300 msl bound upper : 5500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : vld |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 228111 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On climb out departure advised small aircraft traffic at 12 O'clock 8 mi 5500 ft. Not in sight. Shortly after, departure advised same traffic 11 O'clock 6 mi 5500 ft. We were cleared up to 10000 ft. Departure advised small aircraft at 11 O'clock 2 mi. Still not in sight. 10-15 seconds later we sighted small aircraft at our altitude (approximately 5000-5500 MSL) about 1/4 mi off our left side. Neither aircraft reported seeing the other until passing. Had we been 1/4 mi over, we would have hit the other aircraft. I believe the controller was in error for not assigning diverging headings or stopping our climb until traffic sighted. I don't believe we were protected at all except by luck.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT BTWN ARR DEP OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT DEP ADVISED SMA TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK 8 MI 5500 FT. NOT IN SIGHT. SHORTLY AFTER, DEP ADVISED SAME TFC 11 O'CLOCK 6 MI 5500 FT. WE WERE CLRED UP TO 10000 FT. DEP ADVISED SMA AT 11 O'CLOCK 2 MI. STILL NOT IN SIGHT. 10-15 SECONDS LATER WE SIGHTED SMA AT OUR ALT (APPROX 5000-5500 MSL) ABOUT 1/4 MI OFF OUR L SIDE. NEITHER ACFT RPTED SEEING THE OTHER UNTIL PASSING. HAD WE BEEN 1/4 MI OVER, WE WOULD HAVE HIT THE OTHER ACFT. I BELIEVE THE CTLR WAS IN ERROR FOR NOT ASSIGNING DIVERGING HDGS OR STOPPING OUR CLB UNTIL TFC SIGHTED. I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE PROTECTED AT ALL EXCEPT BY LUCK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.