<< >> NASA ASRS Report 219832, August 1992

Air carrier given speed, altitude and heading changes and told intercept localizer. Overshoots localizer.

Attributes
ACN	219832
Time
Date	199208
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : san
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4550 msl bound upper : 5000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : san
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	219832
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Had flown from pit to san. Was told by approach to turn to a heading to intercept localizer, slow to approximately 180 KTS and descend to 5000 ft. Captain turned to the heading but did not intercept localizer until I drew it to his attention after announcing localizer alive. He then turned off autoplt and flight director and flew raw data as he continued to slow and descend. Captain kept asking me if I saw the traffic we were slowing for and to keep looking for it. At 4700 ft altitude alerter went off (I'm still looking outside for traffic per captain's request) and we descended to 4550 ft before captain arrested descent and climbed back to 5000 ft assigned altitude. Captain was more concerned on what controller was doing than what plane was doing!

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR GIVEN SPD, ALT AND HDG CHANGES AND TOLD INTERCEPT LOC. OVERSHOOTS LOC.

Narrative: HAD FLOWN FROM PIT TO SAN. WAS TOLD BY APCH TO TURN TO A HDG TO INTERCEPT LOC, SLOW TO APPROX 180 KTS AND DSND TO 5000 FT. CAPT TURNED TO THE HDG BUT DID NOT INTERCEPT LOC UNTIL I DREW IT TO HIS ATTN AFTER ANNOUNCING LOC ALIVE. HE THEN TURNED OFF AUTOPLT AND FLT DIRECTOR AND FLEW RAW DATA AS HE CONTINUED TO SLOW AND DSND. CAPT KEPT ASKING ME IF I SAW THE TFC WE WERE SLOWING FOR AND TO KEEP LOOKING FOR IT. AT 4700 FT ALT ALERTER WENT OFF (I'M STILL LOOKING OUTSIDE FOR TFC PER CAPT'S REQUEST) AND WE DSNDED TO 4550 FT BEFORE CAPT ARRESTED DSCNT AND CLBED BACK TO 5000 FT ASSIGNED ALT. CAPT WAS MORE CONCERNED ON WHAT CTLR WAS DOING THAN WHAT PLANE WAS DOING!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.