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Captain of air carrier medium large transport aircraft was unsure of a holding pattern entry during encounter with thunderstorm WX conditions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 218129 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199208 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 218129 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
An approach to rdu runway 23 thunderstorms in area just ahead reported plus/minus 50 (airspeed) fluctuations. Thunderstorms in all quadrants continued moderate turbulence. Many aircraft on frequency. ATC very overworked. We were given many vectors. Finally entered a holding pattern then vectored out of pattern after several more vectors with much radio congestion. We heard intercept the rdu 320 degree radial on a 290 degree heading. This we did at about the 14 DME fix headed outbound on radial. A few mins later, controller said to hold on 320 degree radial between 15 and 30 mi fix right turns. We were unable to get confirmation because of radio congestion. At 25 DME, made a left turn to reintercept going inbound and hold. Partway through turn, we were vectored for the approach and landing on runway 5. I have no idea if the controller instructed us to intercept going inbound or outbound on the radial. It was just pure chaos over rdu.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF ACR MLG ACFT WAS UNSURE OF A HOLDING PATTERN ENTRY DURING ENCOUNTER WITH TSTM WX CONDITIONS.
Narrative: AN APCH TO RDU RWY 23 TSTMS IN AREA JUST AHEAD RPTED PLUS/MINUS 50 (AIRSPD) FLUCTUATIONS. TSTMS IN ALL QUADRANTS CONTINUED MODERATE TURB. MANY ACFT ON FREQ. ATC VERY OVERWORKED. WE WERE GIVEN MANY VECTORS. FINALLY ENTERED A HOLDING PATTERN THEN VECTORED OUT OF PATTERN AFTER SEVERAL MORE VECTORS WITH MUCH RADIO CONGESTION. WE HEARD INTERCEPT THE RDU 320 DEG RADIAL ON A 290 DEG HDG. THIS WE DID AT ABOUT THE 14 DME FIX HEADED OUTBOUND ON RADIAL. A FEW MINS LATER, CTLR SAID TO HOLD ON 320 DEG RADIAL BTWN 15 AND 30 MI FIX R TURNS. WE WERE UNABLE TO GET CONFIRMATION BECAUSE OF RADIO CONGESTION. AT 25 DME, MADE A L TURN TO REINTERCEPT GOING INBOUND AND HOLD. PARTWAY THROUGH TURN, WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE APCH AND LNDG ON RWY 5. I HAVE NO IDEA IF THE CTLR INSTRUCTED US TO INTERCEPT GOING INBOUND OR OUTBOUND ON THE RADIAL. IT WAS JUST PURE CHAOS OVER RDU.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.