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Air carrier Y climb through occupied altitude had less than standard separation from air carrier X. System error.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210567 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : tjzs |
| State Reference | PR |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : tjs tower : opf |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 7 |
| ASRS Report | 210567 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : developmental |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was training a developmental and he had air carrier X sebound at FL330 with air carrier Y climbing out of FL307 to FL350. Trainee turned air carrier X at FL330 south, waited 10 seconds, turned climbing air carrier Y. I waited 5 seconds, turned air carrier Y some more, it wasn't enough.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR Y CLB THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT HAD LTSS FROM ACR X. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: I WAS TRAINING A DEVELOPMENTAL AND HE HAD ACR X SEBOUND AT FL330 WITH ACR Y CLBING OUT OF FL307 TO FL350. TRAINEE TURNED ACR X AT FL330 S, WAITED 10 SECONDS, TURNED CLBING ACR Y. I WAITED 5 SECONDS, TURNED ACR Y SOME MORE, IT WASN'T ENOUGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.