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Instrument with spi aboard practicing touch-and-go lndgs. Second aircraft takes off at same time and parallels their flight path 45 ft horizontally.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 210355 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : tvy |
| State Reference | UT |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 550 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 210355 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 45 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
A student and I were practicing short field takeoff and lndgs to a full stop. We announced our intentions on each leg. After turning final on our third approach an aircraft appeared to be taking the runway. I made a second announcement on final stating we were on short final for runway 16 to a full stop. The aircraft stopped, but was partially over the hold line. My student landed to a full stop and then began his takeoff. I turned around to check the other aircraft and realized he was rolling down the runway right behind us. I asked him what he was doing and reminded him it was unsafe practice to have 2 aircraft active on the runway at the same time. He replied that it was no problem and that he had us in sight. As we took off, he also rotated and flew parallel to our right. We turned crosswind and he turned crosswind. On downwind he turned downwind over the top of the airport and then headed west. Another aircraft in the pattern announced that he observed the incident and would be a witness to any action necessary. As mentioned above, I was training a student and trying to instill safe flying practices each time we fly. Some people think rules and safety don't apply in an uncontrolled airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INST WITH SPI ABOARD PRACTICING TOUCH-AND-GO LNDGS. SECOND ACFT TAKES OFF AT SAME TIME AND PARALLELS THEIR FLT PATH 45 FT HORIZLY.
Narrative: A STUDENT AND I WERE PRACTICING SHORT FIELD TKOF AND LNDGS TO A FULL STOP. WE ANNOUNCED OUR INTENTIONS ON EACH LEG. AFTER TURNING FINAL ON OUR THIRD APCH AN ACFT APPEARED TO BE TAKING THE RWY. I MADE A SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT ON FINAL STATING WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 16 TO A FULL STOP. THE ACFT STOPPED, BUT WAS PARTIALLY OVER THE HOLD LINE. MY STUDENT LANDED TO A FULL STOP AND THEN BEGAN HIS TKOF. I TURNED AROUND TO CHK THE OTHER ACFT AND REALIZED HE WAS ROLLING DOWN THE RWY RIGHT BEHIND US. I ASKED HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING AND REMINDED HIM IT WAS UNSAFE PRACTICE TO HAVE 2 ACFT ACTIVE ON THE RWY AT THE SAME TIME. HE REPLIED THAT IT WAS NO PROBLEM AND THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT. AS WE TOOK OFF, HE ALSO ROTATED AND FLEW PARALLEL TO OUR R. WE TURNED XWIND AND HE TURNED XWIND. ON DOWNWIND HE TURNED DOWNWIND OVER THE TOP OF THE ARPT AND THEN HEADED W. ANOTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN ANNOUNCED THAT HE OBSERVED THE INCIDENT AND WOULD BE A WITNESS TO ANY ACTION NECESSARY. AS MENTIONED ABOVE, I WAS TRAINING A STUDENT AND TRYING TO INSTILL SAFE FLYING PRACTICES EACH TIME WE FLY. SOME PEOPLE THINK RULES AND SAFETY DON'T APPLY IN AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.