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Unable to make MEA over gve FL370.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 205847 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199203 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : gve |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc tower : abq |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zdc |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 205847 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On our routing from ewr to iah we are cleared from gve to spa (J37). On the en route chart J37 shows a min en route altitude (MEA) of 37000 ft. The problem is that we are never able to get to FL370. Prior to gve I always ask for direct spa due to the MEA. This has been going on for many yrs, and when I question ATC they don't seem to have any answers. I believe that the clearance should either be after gve direct spa, or after gve fly the 233 degree radial until receiving spa direct if below FL370. If you can help me find out why this is I would appreciate it. Our flight control says that they just file it the way ATC wants it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNABLE TO MAKE MEA OVER GVE FL370.
Narrative: ON OUR ROUTING FROM EWR TO IAH WE ARE CLRED FROM GVE TO SPA (J37). ON THE ENRTE CHART J37 SHOWS A MIN ENRTE ALT (MEA) OF 37000 FT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE ARE NEVER ABLE TO GET TO FL370. PRIOR TO GVE I ALWAYS ASK FOR DIRECT SPA DUE TO THE MEA. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YRS, AND WHEN I QUESTION ATC THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY ANSWERS. I BELIEVE THAT THE CLRNC SHOULD EITHER BE AFTER GVE DIRECT SPA, OR AFTER GVE FLY THE 233 DEG RADIAL UNTIL RECEIVING SPA DIRECT IF BELOW FL370. IF YOU CAN HELP ME FIND OUT WHY THIS IS I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OUR FLT CTL SAYS THAT THEY JUST FILE IT THE WAY ATC WANTS IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.