<< >> NASA ASRS Report 204227, March 1992

Runway incursion.

Attributes
ACN	204227
Time
Date	199203
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : clt
State Reference	NC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : afw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	204227
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact other other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On wed/march at clt everything was routine through engine start and taxi. We were told to taxi to runway 36L by 'M' hold short of 'east.' at east we were told to taxi to runway 36L. We were about #3 in line when we arrived at the end of 36L. When we were next to go at the end of 36L about pm:45 a transmission was made by tower which sounded like 'air carrier axy expedite going into position and hold on 36L.' the copilot repeated back to tower 'air carrier axy into position and hold 36L.' upon crossing the hold line tower gave a commuter clearance for takeoff from the intersection just short of the end taxiway on 36L. The commuters call sign ended in xy. At this point I felt the tower did not intend for us to be over the hold line. I stopped short of the runway because I felt there was confusion on who was cleared into position. I told tower I was over the hold line and they sent the aircraft on final around. We were cleared into position and a normal takeoff made when cleared by tower. Hold short lights should help stop these missed communication.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RWY INCURSION.

Narrative: ON WED/MARCH AT CLT EVERYTHING WAS ROUTINE THROUGH ENG START AND TAXI. WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 36L BY 'M' HOLD SHORT OF 'E.' AT E WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TO RWY 36L. WE WERE ABOUT #3 IN LINE WHEN WE ARRIVED AT THE END OF 36L. WHEN WE WERE NEXT TO GO AT THE END OF 36L ABOUT PM:45 A XMISSION WAS MADE BY TWR WHICH SOUNDED LIKE 'ACR AXY EXPEDITE GOING INTO POS AND HOLD ON 36L.' THE COPLT REPEATED BACK TO TWR 'ACR AXY INTO POS AND HOLD 36L.' UPON XING THE HOLD LINE TWR GAVE A COMMUTER CLRNC FOR TKOF FROM THE INTXN JUST SHORT OF THE END TAXIWAY ON 36L. THE COMMUTERS CALL SIGN ENDED IN XY. AT THIS POINT I FELT THE TWR DID NOT INTEND FOR US TO BE OVER THE HOLD LINE. I STOPPED SHORT OF THE RWY BECAUSE I FELT THERE WAS CONFUSION ON WHO WAS CLRED INTO POS. I TOLD TWR I WAS OVER THE HOLD LINE AND THEY SENT THE ACFT ON FINAL AROUND. WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND A NORMAL TKOF MADE WHEN CLRED BY TWR. HOLD SHORT LIGHTS SHOULD HELP STOP THESE MISSED COM.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.