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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 202631 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199202 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : jfk |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : profile descent arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time total : 16000 |
| ASRS Report | 202631 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 202632 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Passed crs VOR (112.3), flying lead-in lights to 13L jfk. As descended to MDA, controller called 'altitude alert, check altitude immediately.' we were on profile, no altitude deviation, on course. Called tower on telephone after landing; man on duty advised this alarm very common occurrence on this approach, many parameters set it off. Altitude, sink rate, ie, we indicated no deviation from any parameters; per telephone call, was advised that this 'no big deal' or 'no problem.' I have made this approach many times over 25 yrs, don't remember this occurring before. It's a very disconcerting alarm at 800-1000 ft on final approach. Altimeters were on proper setting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOW ALT ALERT ON FINAL APCH.
Narrative: PASSED CRS VOR (112.3), FLYING LEAD-IN LIGHTS TO 13L JFK. AS DSNDED TO MDA, CTLR CALLED 'ALT ALERT, CHK ALT IMMEDIATELY.' WE WERE ON PROFILE, NO ALTDEV, ON COURSE. CALLED TWR ON TELEPHONE AFTER LNDG; MAN ON DUTY ADVISED THIS ALARM VERY COMMON OCCURRENCE ON THIS APCH, MANY PARAMETERS SET IT OFF. ALT, SINK RATE, IE, WE INDICATED NO DEV FROM ANY PARAMETERS; PER TELEPHONE CALL, WAS ADVISED THAT THIS 'NO BIG DEAL' OR 'NO PROBLEM.' I HAVE MADE THIS APCH MANY TIMES OVER 25 YRS, DON'T REMEMBER THIS OCCURRING BEFORE. IT'S A VERY DISCONCERTING ALARM AT 800-1000 FT ON FINAL APCH. ALTIMETERS WERE ON PROPER SETTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.