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Potential conflict less than standard separation between an air carrier large transport on ILS approach crs and rotary winged crossing traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 200387 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199201 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fll |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 700 msl bound upper : 700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : fll |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : straight in |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 200387 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
During a visual approach to runway 27R at fll, a helicopter that was supposed to be in contact with fll tower for TA's and remain below 500 ft as he flew from south to north below the ILS to 27R, ended up in front of us at 700 ft about 1/2 mi or less. We made an evasive turn to the left to avoid him. We turned back to the right and reintercepted the localizer about 500 ft. The tower finally got communication with him. Fll tower was very upset with the helicopter pilot. The tower asked him why he didn't answer the radio calls and why he was at 700 ft instead of below 500 like he was cleared. The helicopter pilot said he was sorry if he caused any inconvenience. He doesn't know how much of an inconvenience it could have been. I think the small aircraft and helicopter operation up and down fll beach should be out over the water more and below 300 ft to make sure they stay off the 27R localizer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT LTSS BTWN AN ACR LGT ON ILS APCH CRS AND ROTARY WINGED XING TFC.
Narrative: DURING A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 27R AT FLL, A HELI THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CONTACT WITH FLL TWR FOR TA'S AND REMAIN BELOW 500 FT AS HE FLEW FROM S TO N BELOW THE ILS TO 27R, ENDED UP IN FRONT OF US AT 700 FT ABOUT 1/2 MI OR LESS. WE MADE AN EVASIVE TURN TO THE L TO AVOID HIM. WE TURNED BACK TO THE R AND REINTERCEPTED THE LOC ABOUT 500 FT. THE TWR FINALLY GOT COM WITH HIM. FLL TWR WAS VERY UPSET WITH THE HELI PLT. THE TWR ASKED HIM WHY HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE RADIO CALLS AND WHY HE WAS AT 700 FT INSTEAD OF BELOW 500 LIKE HE WAS CLRED. THE HELI PLT SAID HE WAS SORRY IF HE CAUSED ANY INCONVENIENCE. HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN INCONVENIENCE IT COULD HAVE BEEN. I THINK THE SMALL ACFT AND HELI OP UP AND DOWN FLL BEACH SHOULD BE OUT OVER THE WATER MORE AND BELOW 300 FT TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY OFF THE 27R LOC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.