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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 196908 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199112 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 196908 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While being radar vectored to the visual approach for runway 19 at ksna, we had 3 TCASII RA's within a couple of mins. The volume of the TCASII voice and all the commands by the TCASII made it impossible to hear ATC. I believe we missed some communication with ATC. Also, the TCASII volume makes it hard to communicate within the cockpit. Note: both pilots had headsets on. The TCASII system should have fewer voice commands and after initial command, be a lower volume.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO RPTING PROTESTS VOLUME OF TCASII COMMANDS. CTLR TRANSMISSIONS LOST ACCOUNT OVERRIDE OF TCASII.
Narrative: WHILE BEING RADAR VECTORED TO THE VISUAL APCH FOR RWY 19 AT KSNA, WE HAD 3 TCASII RA'S WITHIN A COUPLE OF MINS. THE VOLUME OF THE TCASII VOICE AND ALL THE COMMANDS BY THE TCASII MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO HEAR ATC. I BELIEVE WE MISSED SOME COM WITH ATC. ALSO, THE TCASII VOLUME MAKES IT HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITHIN THE COCKPIT. NOTE: BOTH PLTS HAD HEADSETS ON. THE TCASII SYS SHOULD HAVE FEWER VOICE COMMANDS AND AFTER INITIAL COMMAND, BE A LOWER VOLUME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.