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Reporter suggests all airports operating parallel runways have airport requirement that all runway hold instructions be read back with full identify of aircraft and runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 196779 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199112 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10800 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 196779 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I used to fly for a commuter in atl. In atl, airport rules state that 'all aircraft shall readback all runway holding instructions including aircraft identify.' this rule is a great safety device for airports with parallel runways, and it is printed on the atl airport diagram and spoken on the arrival and departure ATIS. I now fly for a commuter in dfw and although their taxi procedures are much more complex there is no requirement to readback all runway holding instructions. Why? Runway incursions are the #2 violation in the USA behind altitude busts, and with their parallel runway operation and super complex taxiway layout they should have a rule making runway holding readbacks mandatory. I do it anyway but it should be a rule.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR SUGGESTS ALL ARPTS OPERATING PARALLEL RWYS HAVE ARPT REQUIREMENT THAT ALL RWY HOLD INSTRUCTIONS BE READ BACK WITH FULL IDENT OF ACFT AND RWY.
Narrative: I USED TO FLY FOR A COMMUTER IN ATL. IN ATL, ARPT RULES STATE THAT 'ALL ACFT SHALL READBACK ALL RWY HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS INCLUDING ACFT IDENT.' THIS RULE IS A GREAT SAFETY DEVICE FOR ARPTS WITH PARALLEL RWYS, AND IT IS PRINTED ON THE ATL ARPT DIAGRAM AND SPOKEN ON THE ARR AND DEP ATIS. I NOW FLY FOR A COMMUTER IN DFW AND ALTHOUGH THEIR TAXI PROCS ARE MUCH MORE COMPLEX THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO READBACK ALL RWY HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS. WHY? RWY INCURSIONS ARE THE #2 VIOLATION IN THE USA BEHIND ALT BUSTS, AND WITH THEIR PARALLEL RWY OP AND SUPER COMPLEX TAXIWAY LAYOUT THEY SHOULD HAVE A RULE MAKING RWY HOLDING READBACKS MANDATORY. I DO IT ANYWAY BUT IT SHOULD BE A RULE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.