FSDO inspector discovered aircraft ad not completed as aircraft was presented for a pilot check ride...

Attributes
ACN	191096
Time
Date	199109
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cae
State Reference	SC
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 200
ASRS Report	191096
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	other personnel
Qualification	other other : other
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

In process of placing an small transport into charter service aircraft logs originally inspected by director of operations (myself) and director of maintenance with no items found. Aircraft records again inspected by FAA FSDO personnel 9/tue/91 with no items found. On 10/wed/91 the aircraft with myself and 2 other pilots went to FAA for check rides, at this time FAA maintenance personnel (the same person) found an ad outstanding. The following day a ferry permit was obtained to the repair station which performed the last inspection. In our after the fact research another ad was found not properly signed off. The ad had in fact not been completed with and was taken care of while we waited. 91.417 (a)(2)(V) is very specific about how ad's should be recorded however, after 30 hours of research plus review by the FAA items are still missed because of lack of standardization of recording procedures! I have discussed this with our maintenance inspector and he smiles and says it's our problem. I feel strongly the FAA should mandate the format as they mandate the ad's on aircraft such as a 20 yr old small transport where ad recording format has changed 3 or 4 times it is impossible to absolutely verify all that's been done!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FSDO INSPECTOR DISCOVERED ACFT AD NOT COMPLETED AS ACFT WAS PRESENTED FOR A PLT CHK RIDE AND CERTIFICATION FOR CHARTER OP.

Narrative: IN PROCESS OF PLACING AN SMT INTO CHARTER SVC ACFT LOGS ORIGINALLY INSPECTED BY DIRECTOR OF OPS (MYSELF) AND DIRECTOR OF MAINT WITH NO ITEMS FOUND. ACFT RECORDS AGAIN INSPECTED BY FAA FSDO PERSONNEL 9/TUE/91 WITH NO ITEMS FOUND. ON 10/WED/91 THE ACFT WITH MYSELF AND 2 OTHER PLTS WENT TO FAA FOR CHK RIDES, AT THIS TIME FAA MAINT PERSONNEL (THE SAME PERSON) FOUND AN AD OUTSTANDING. THE FOLLOWING DAY A FERRY PERMIT WAS OBTAINED TO THE REPAIR STATION WHICH PERFORMED THE LAST INSPECTION. IN OUR AFTER THE FACT RESEARCH ANOTHER AD WAS FOUND NOT PROPERLY SIGNED OFF. THE AD HAD IN FACT NOT BEEN COMPLETED WITH AND WAS TAKEN CARE OF WHILE WE WAITED. 91.417 (A)(2)(V) IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW AD'S SHOULD BE RECORDED HOWEVER, AFTER 30 HRS OF RESEARCH PLUS REVIEW BY THE FAA ITEMS ARE STILL MISSED BECAUSE OF LACK OF STANDARDIZATION OF RECORDING PROCS! I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH OUR MAINT INSPECTOR AND HE SMILES AND SAYS IT'S OUR PROBLEM. I FEEL STRONGLY THE FAA SHOULD MANDATE THE FORMAT AS THEY MANDATE THE AD'S ON ACFT SUCH AS A 20 YR OLD SMT WHERE AD RECORDING FORMAT HAS CHANGED 3 OR 4 TIMES IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ABSOLUTELY VERIFY ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

FSDO inspector discovered aircraft ad not completed as aircraft was presented for a pilot check ride and certification for charter operation.