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Flight crew of light transport received late clearance that left them high at localizer intercept at OM. Approach and descent was rushed and aircraft landed half way down the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 188232 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199109 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 9100 flight time type : 3300 |
| ASRS Report | 188232 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approach control descended us to 3000 ft and informed us of a close to the marker turn onto the localizer 31R at dfw. Therefore the first officer slowed the aircraft down, so we could get the gear out and flaps down. We were still at 3000 ft. Indeed we intercepted the localizer at the marker at 3000 still ('dirty' airplane though). We were 'cleared for the ILS', approach control said. 'Little high, thanks!' I replied. First officer dove the aircraft down and we landed half way down the runway. I turned off at the end. I called approach on the telephone and complained. We never should have accepted the approach clearance, I feel. (We were too high for the approach WX was too low). Dfw is becoming an unsafe airport fast! Too much traffic; frequently no readbacks because of radio congestion. You can't get a word in. A lot of gars because traffic still on the runway in front of you. Taxi incidents, etc, etc. A serious accident is going to happen, soon!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF LTT RECEIVED LATE CLRNC THAT LEFT THEM HIGH AT LOC INTERCEPT AT OM. APCH AND DSCNT WAS RUSHED AND ACFT LANDED HALF WAY DOWN THE RWY.
Narrative: APCH CTL DSNDED US TO 3000 FT AND INFORMED US OF A CLOSE TO THE MARKER TURN ONTO THE LOC 31R AT DFW. THEREFORE THE FO SLOWED THE ACFT DOWN, SO WE COULD GET THE GEAR OUT AND FLAPS DOWN. WE WERE STILL AT 3000 FT. INDEED WE INTERCEPTED THE LOC AT THE MARKER AT 3000 STILL ('DIRTY' AIRPLANE THOUGH). WE WERE 'CLRED FOR THE ILS', APCH CTL SAID. 'LITTLE HIGH, THANKS!' I REPLIED. FO DOVE THE ACFT DOWN AND WE LANDED HALF WAY DOWN THE RWY. I TURNED OFF AT THE END. I CALLED APCH ON THE TELEPHONE AND COMPLAINED. WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THE APCH CLRNC, I FEEL. (WE WERE TOO HIGH FOR THE APCH WX WAS TOO LOW). DFW IS BECOMING AN UNSAFE ARPT FAST! TOO MUCH TFC; FREQUENTLY NO READBACKS BECAUSE OF RADIO CONGESTION. YOU CAN'T GET A WORD IN. A LOT OF GARS BECAUSE TFC STILL ON THE RWY IN FRONT OF YOU. TAXI INCIDENTS, ETC, ETC. A SERIOUS ACCIDENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, SOON!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.