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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 187523 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 15800 msl bound upper : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v459 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 4 controller radar : 2 flight time total : 1062 |
| ASRS Report | 187523 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 27600 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Commuter X was at 16000 northbound on V459. Air carrier Y was on loop departure at 15000. I thought Y would be more than 5 mi in front of X so I issued normal speed and climb to FL230 to air carrier Y. When I realized it was not going to work, I turned Y to a 010 heading, and turned aircraft X 30 degree left.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS BTWN COMMUTER AND ACR ACFT. OPERROR.
Narrative: COMMUTER X WAS AT 16000 NBOUND ON V459. ACR Y WAS ON LOOP DEP AT 15000. I THOUGHT Y WOULD BE MORE THAN 5 MI IN FRONT OF X SO I ISSUED NORMAL SPD AND CLB TO FL230 TO ACR Y. WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS NOT GOING TO WORK, I TURNED Y TO A 010 HDG, AND TURNED ACFT X 30 DEG L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.