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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 180340 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199106 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : srp airport : phx |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab tracon : phx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 7 controller radar : 5 |
| ASRS Report | 180340 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9400 flight time type : 1400 |
| ASRS Report | 180227 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 10000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Commuter Y was inbound to phoenix (phx) descending to cross tonto intersection at 11000 ft. Air carrier X was inbound to phx to cross tonto at 12000 ft. Spacing was fine. Air carrier X asked for a shortcut to fly direct tonto. I issued heading 215 degree (later corrected to 220 degree) to intercept the salt river 010 degree radial just outside of tonto. With the shortcut I had to provide vertical separation, so air carrier X was stopped at 13000 ft. Commuter Y was switched to phx approach frequency at 11000 ft. Air carrier X was then reissued the crossing restriction to cross tonto at 11000 ft instead of 12000 ft and aircraft was switched to phx approach frequency. My mind thought I had given air carrier X 12000 but I said 11000 possibly looking at aircraft Y altitude. I cannot remember issuing 11000 ft. I discovered the error when I saw air carrier X descending out of 12000 ft and I called phx approach to question if X had busted his restriction or if approach was using visual separation. Phx responded they were using visual separation now, but air carrier X had come over descending to 11000 ft. My only conclusion is that better awareness on my part could have stopped this error from taking place. Supplemental information from acn 180227: I acknowledged the frequency change and the 'one, one, thousand' level and went to approach. Upon chkin with approach, we were questioned about our altitude, and given a 30 degree right vector to miss the commuter. We immediately got visual contact on the commuter making the heading change unnecessary, approach meanwhile descended commuter Y to a lower altitude and we passed overhead.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTSS BTWN ACR AND COMMUTER ACFT. BOTH INBOUND TO PHX. OPAL ERROR.
Narrative: COMMUTER Y WAS INBOUND TO PHOENIX (PHX) DSNDING TO CROSS TONTO INTXN AT 11000 FT. ACR X WAS INBOUND TO PHX TO CROSS TONTO AT 12000 FT. SPACING WAS FINE. ACR X ASKED FOR A SHORTCUT TO FLY DIRECT TONTO. I ISSUED HDG 215 DEG (LATER CORRECTED TO 220 DEG) TO INTERCEPT THE SALT RIVER 010 DEG RADIAL JUST OUTSIDE OF TONTO. WITH THE SHORTCUT I HAD TO PROVIDE VERT SEPARATION, SO ACR X WAS STOPPED AT 13000 FT. COMMUTER Y WAS SWITCHED TO PHX APCH FREQ AT 11000 FT. ACR X WAS THEN REISSUED THE XING RESTRICTION TO CROSS TONTO AT 11000 FT INSTEAD OF 12000 FT AND ACFT WAS SWITCHED TO PHX APCH FREQ. MY MIND THOUGHT I HAD GIVEN ACR X 12000 BUT I SAID 11000 POSSIBLY LOOKING AT ACFT Y ALT. I CANNOT REMEMBER ISSUING 11000 FT. I DISCOVERED THE ERROR WHEN I SAW ACR X DSNDING OUT OF 12000 FT AND I CALLED PHX APCH TO QUESTION IF X HAD BUSTED HIS RESTRICTION OR IF APCH WAS USING VISUAL SEPARATION. PHX RESPONDED THEY WERE USING VISUAL SEPARATION NOW, BUT ACR X HAD COME OVER DSNDING TO 11000 FT. MY ONLY CONCLUSION IS THAT BETTER AWARENESS ON MY PART COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS ERROR FROM TAKING PLACE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 180227: I ACKNOWLEDGED THE FREQ CHANGE AND THE 'ONE, ONE, THOUSAND' LEVEL AND WENT TO APCH. UPON CHKIN WITH APCH, WE WERE QUESTIONED ABOUT OUR ALT, AND GIVEN A 30 DEG R VECTOR TO MISS THE COMMUTER. WE IMMEDIATELY GOT VISUAL CONTACT ON THE COMMUTER MAKING THE HDG CHANGE UNNECESSARY, APCH MEANWHILE DSNDED COMMUTER Y TO A LOWER ALT AND WE PASSED OVERHEAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.