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TCASII RA ignored as PIC has traffic in sight after traffic advisory given. Radar vectoring used to resolve in opposite direction traffic potential conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 177586 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199103 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sbv |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 177586 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
In this situation the RA commanded a pullup, which would have put us on a collision track with the air carrier. I ignored the pullup, since I could see the aircraft. But, what if we had been on instruments?! Something was left to be desired here. We were given 10 mi to descend to FL190 (made it in 9 mi) through the air carrier mg altitude, and to level at the same altitude as the opp direction twin.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII RA IGNORED AS PIC HAS TRAFFIC IN SIGHT AFTER TRAFFIC ADVISORY GIVEN. RADAR VECTORING USED TO RESOLVE IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION TRAFFIC POTENTIAL CONFLICT.
Narrative: IN THIS SITUATION THE RA COMMANDED A PULLUP, WHICH WOULD HAVE PUT US ON A COLLISION TRACK WITH THE ACR. I IGNORED THE PULLUP, SINCE I COULD SEE THE ACFT. BUT, WHAT IF WE HAD BEEN ON INSTS?! SOMETHING WAS LEFT TO BE DESIRED HERE. WE WERE GIVEN 10 MI TO DSND TO FL190 (MADE IT IN 9 MI) THROUGH THE ACR MG ALT, AND TO LEVEL AT THE SAME ALT AS THE OPP DIRECTION TWIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.