<< >> NASA ASRS Report 177009, April 1991

Commuter PIC questions the wisdom of using opposite direction approach to dfw with scattered clouds at 500'.

Attributes
ACN	177009
Time
Date	199104
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dfw
State Reference	TX
Altitude	agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 1500
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : dfw tower : dfw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 8600 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	177009
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Weather
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Dfw ATIS called WX 'clear 7.' approach called us with, 'winds calm, do you want runway 31R?' I accepted and asked for current dfw WX because we were in clouds. He replied, '700 scattered and good visibility.' we were cleared for an ILS 31R and broke out at 500' AGL. There were several company aircraft behind us on ILS 31R, also. After landing I told tower about breaking out at 500'. They kept shooting ILS 17L and 31R, also. We think it was unsafe and almost aborted approach because of low clouds and visibility. Now I think I should not have accepted runway 31R!!!!

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: COMMUTER PIC QUESTIONS THE WISDOM OF USING OPPOSITE DIRECTION APCH TO DFW WITH SCATTERED CLOUDS AT 500'.

Narrative: DFW ATIS CALLED WX 'CLR 7.' APCH CALLED US WITH, 'WINDS CALM, DO YOU WANT RWY 31R?' I ACCEPTED AND ASKED FOR CURRENT DFW WX BECAUSE WE WERE IN CLOUDS. HE REPLIED, '700 SCATTERED AND GOOD VISIBILITY.' WE WERE CLRED FOR AN ILS 31R AND BROKE OUT AT 500' AGL. THERE WERE SEVERAL COMPANY ACFT BEHIND US ON ILS 31R, ALSO. AFTER LNDG I TOLD TWR ABOUT BREAKING OUT AT 500'. THEY KEPT SHOOTING ILS 17L AND 31R, ALSO. WE THINK IT WAS UNSAFE AND ALMOST ABORTED APCH BECAUSE OF LOW CLOUDS AND VISIBILITY. NOW I THINK I SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED RWY 31R!!!!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.