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Commuter light transport cleared for visual to follow air carrier jet on parallel visual approach overtook jet.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 175943 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199104 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 175943 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach control cleared our flight for a visibility approach to 25R, to follow xx airline's flight. Upon turning final, about 7 mi out, xx slowed drastically, causing our aircraft to pass their aircraft. Upon realizing I could not follow xx, but was passing it I notified ATC lax tower of the situation and they advised there was no problem. Xx felt we could not have maintained visibility sep as we turned final 'wing up,' but we maintained visibility contact and sep at all times. Although we slowed immediately to our final approach airspeed, we continued to maintain a lead on xx. To avoid this situation in the future, we will slow earlier and allow more space and room when cleared to follow another aircraft on a parallel visibility approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER LTT CLEARED FOR VISUAL TO FOLLOW ACR JET ON PARALLEL VISUAL APCH OVERTOOK JET.
Narrative: APCH CTL CLRED OUR FLT FOR A VIS APCH TO 25R, TO FOLLOW XX AIRLINE'S FLT. UPON TURNING FINAL, ABOUT 7 MI OUT, XX SLOWED DRASTICALLY, CAUSING OUR ACFT TO PASS THEIR ACFT. UPON REALIZING I COULD NOT FOLLOW XX, BUT WAS PASSING IT I NOTIFIED ATC LAX TWR OF THE SITUATION AND THEY ADVISED THERE WAS NO PROB. XX FELT WE COULD NOT HAVE MAINTAINED VIS SEP AS WE TURNED FINAL 'WING UP,' BUT WE MAINTAINED VIS CONTACT AND SEP AT ALL TIMES. ALTHOUGH WE SLOWED IMMEDIATELY TO OUR FINAL APCH AIRSPD, WE CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN A LEAD ON XX. TO AVOID THIS SITUATION IN THE FUTURE, WE WILL SLOW EARLIER AND ALLOW MORE SPACE AND ROOM WHEN CLRED TO FOLLOW ANOTHER ACFT ON A PARALLEL VIS APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.