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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 175331 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199104 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : lax |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 175331 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Mentioned to copilot several times 8000' crossing restriction. At 1000' to go he requested me to input into FMC. While I did that, he apparently slowed his descent rate and crossed at 8600'. I checked his altitude about 1/2 mi before crossing point. Said he would be high. Commanded an increase in rate, but we were still high. I believe that automation (FMC) input took my attention away, plus having a 2-M environment did not leave a back-up to the PF while I was checking FMC. Automatic throttles were also in use and I believe they might have caused the copilot to slow his rate of descent. I say this because later on I noticed that they caused him some difficulty on other legs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET ON DESCENT AND APCH TO LAX.
Narrative: MENTIONED TO COPLT SEVERAL TIMES 8000' XING RESTRICTION. AT 1000' TO GO HE REQUESTED ME TO INPUT INTO FMC. WHILE I DID THAT, HE APPARENTLY SLOWED HIS DSNT RATE AND CROSSED AT 8600'. I CHKED HIS ALT ABOUT 1/2 MI BEFORE XING POINT. SAID HE WOULD BE HIGH. COMMANDED AN INCREASE IN RATE, BUT WE WERE STILL HIGH. I BELIEVE THAT AUTOMATION (FMC) INPUT TOOK MY ATTN AWAY, PLUS HAVING A 2-M ENVIRONMENT DID NOT LEAVE A BACK-UP TO THE PF WHILE I WAS CHKING FMC. AUTO THROTTLES WERE ALSO IN USE AND I BELIEVE THEY MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THE COPLT TO SLOW HIS RATE OF DSNT. I SAY THIS BECAUSE LATER ON I NOTICED THAT THEY CAUSED HIM SOME DIFFICULTY ON OTHER LEGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.