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Small aircraft pilot request gca approach. Queried regarding ppr, responds no. Cleared for approach and lands.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 175035 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199104 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : grf |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 14 flight time total : 127 flight time type : 86 |
| ASRS Report | 175035 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I heard about gca (ground controled approach) and decided to try it. 20 mi out I called sea approach for a gca to gray aaf. They asked if I had a ppr (I will find out what this means). I said no, I just wanted to land under gca, then depart for sightseeing. Upon landing, I was told that I was supposed to get prior approval. This was not mentioned in the FAA article I read. The tower at gray was nice about it, but I obviously should have researched the TCA a little more. Upon departure, I was told by gray aaf that I could change frequencys. At this point, I got the ATIS for tacoma narrows, then contacted tacoma narrows tower. I was less than 10 mi out and was reminded by the tower to make contact prior to entering the control zone. I felt I was making contact at the appropriate place. In the future, I will maneuver further away before contacting the tower. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: callback was made to see if any follow-up had occurred (none), and to counsel that ATIS information is secondary when so close to air traffic area and told to change frequency. Reporter had also discussed with his examiner and understands procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT REQUEST GCA APCH. QUERIED REGARDING PPR, RESPONDS NO. CLEARED FOR APCH AND LANDS.
Narrative: I HEARD ABOUT GCA (GND CTLED APCH) AND DECIDED TO TRY IT. 20 MI OUT I CALLED SEA APCH FOR A GCA TO GRAY AAF. THEY ASKED IF I HAD A PPR (I WILL FIND OUT WHAT THIS MEANS). I SAID NO, I JUST WANTED TO LAND UNDER GCA, THEN DEPART FOR SIGHTSEEING. UPON LNDG, I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET PRIOR APPROVAL. THIS WAS NOT MENTIONED IN THE FAA ARTICLE I READ. THE TWR AT GRAY WAS NICE ABOUT IT, BUT I OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE RESEARCHED THE TCA A LITTLE MORE. UPON DEP, I WAS TOLD BY GRAY AAF THAT I COULD CHANGE FREQS. AT THIS POINT, I GOT THE ATIS FOR TACOMA NARROWS, THEN CONTACTED TACOMA NARROWS TWR. I WAS LESS THAN 10 MI OUT AND WAS REMINDED BY THE TWR TO MAKE CONTACT PRIOR TO ENTERING THE CTL ZONE. I FELT I WAS MAKING CONTACT AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL MANEUVER FURTHER AWAY BEFORE CONTACTING THE TWR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: CALLBACK WAS MADE TO SEE IF ANY FOLLOW-UP HAD OCCURRED (NONE), AND TO COUNSEL THAT ATIS INFO IS SECONDARY WHEN SO CLOSE TO ATA AND TOLD TO CHANGE FREQ. RPTR HAD ALSO DISCUSSED WITH HIS EXAMINER AND UNDERSTANDS PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.