Altitude speed deviation on STAR.

Attributes
ACN	174467
Time
Date	199104
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : fim
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 24000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11700 flight time type : 380
ASRS Report	174467
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 4600 flight time type : 390
ASRS Report	174466
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Approximately 15 NM north of fim, received clearance for runway 24/25 profile descent. This was not a part of our clearance, nor were we told to expect it. The clearance was received too late to effect a safe, controled descent, and required the use of a maximum effort descent for most of the profile.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALT SPEED DEVIATION ON STAR.

Narrative: APPROX 15 NM N OF FIM, RECEIVED CLRNC FOR RWY 24/25 PROFILE DSNT. THIS WAS NOT A PART OF OUR CLRNC, NOR WERE WE TOLD TO EXPECT IT. THE CLRNC WAS RECEIVED TOO LATE TO EFFECT A SAFE, CTLED DSNT, AND REQUIRED THE USE OF A MAX EFFORT DSNT FOR MOST OF THE PROFILE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.