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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 174314 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199103 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : aqw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dtw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute airway : dfw |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 30 |
| ASRS Report | 174314 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I have written several times to voice my concern over the mandatory compliance with TCAS RA's, so I will make it brief. On the acton arrival level at 11000', we had an RA with a departing dfw climbing to 10000' at our 1-2 O'clock. He was no doubt climbing at a high rate. First the controller advised us, second we spotted the traffic and third the TCAS issued a climb RA. We then advised approach that we had a TCASII RA and that we would remain level at 11000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ON ARR ROUTE HAS TRAFFIC CALLED, IN SIGHT, RECEIVES TCASII RA. DOES NOT COMPLY.
Narrative: I HAVE WRITTEN SEVERAL TIMES TO VOICE MY CONCERN OVER THE MANDATORY COMPLIANCE WITH TCAS RA'S, SO I WILL MAKE IT BRIEF. ON THE ACTON ARR LEVEL AT 11000', WE HAD AN RA WITH A DEPARTING DFW CLBING TO 10000' AT OUR 1-2 O'CLOCK. HE WAS NO DOUBT CLBING AT A HIGH RATE. FIRST THE CTLR ADVISED US, SECOND WE SPOTTED THE TFC AND THIRD THE TCAS ISSUED A CLB RA. WE THEN ADVISED APCH THAT WE HAD A TCASII RA AND THAT WE WOULD REMAIN LEVEL AT 11000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.