Narrative:

New first officer and captain both 1 month out of training on the aircraft. Ferry flight phl to pit. After 45 mins maintenance delay we arrived at the aircraft. It was parked at the maintenance hangar and was cold. After the preflight we started the APU and it automatic shut down. Maintenance came out and had to replace a burner section. During the repair I called operations for our weight and balance. 15 mins later we taxied out and I called again. Still was not available. 5 mins later the captain elected to take off. We calculated our weight and balance for trim setting and departed over mxe at 10000'. Forms called telling us to return to the gate, we needed 80 pounds of ballast in the fwd cargo bin. We had stowed our bags fwd and told the forms agent to show that adjustment. The captain elected to continue to pit, since we were already airborne. We landed west/O incident. Recommendations: we should not have left west/O the weight and balance from forms (operations). 2 pilots new on an aircraft should not fly together for the first 100 hours. If an aircraft needs ballast when empty to be within cg, it should be mentioned in ground school.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG TOOK OFF ON A DAY VFR FERRY FLT WITHOUT THE REQUIRED PAPERWORK. WEIGHT AND BALANCE WAS NOT WITHIN LIMIT.

Narrative: NEW F/O AND CAPT BOTH 1 MONTH OUT OF TRNING ON THE ACFT. FERRY FLT PHL TO PIT. AFTER 45 MINS MAINT DELAY WE ARRIVED AT THE ACFT. IT WAS PARKED AT THE MAINT HANGAR AND WAS COLD. AFTER THE PREFLT WE STARTED THE APU AND IT AUTO SHUT DOWN. MAINT CAME OUT AND HAD TO REPLACE A BURNER SECTION. DURING THE REPAIR I CALLED OPS FOR OUR WT AND BAL. 15 MINS LATER WE TAXIED OUT AND I CALLED AGAIN. STILL WAS NOT AVAILABLE. 5 MINS LATER THE CAPT ELECTED TO TAKE OFF. WE CALCULATED OUR WT AND BAL FOR TRIM SETTING AND DEPARTED OVER MXE AT 10000'. FORMS CALLED TELLING US TO RETURN TO THE GATE, WE NEEDED 80 LBS OF BALLAST IN THE FWD CARGO BIN. WE HAD STOWED OUR BAGS FWD AND TOLD THE FORMS AGENT TO SHOW THAT ADJUSTMENT. THE CAPT ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO PIT, SINCE WE WERE ALREADY AIRBORNE. WE LANDED W/O INCIDENT. RECOMMENDATIONS: WE SHOULD NOT HAVE LEFT W/O THE WT AND BAL FROM FORMS (OPS). 2 PLTS NEW ON AN ACFT SHOULD NOT FLY TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST 100 HRS. IF AN ACFT NEEDS BALLAST WHEN EMPTY TO BE WITHIN CG, IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED IN GND SCHOOL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.