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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 169479 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199101 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : byi |
| State Reference | UT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 37000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 169479 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X 48 mi west of byi VOR ATC (slc center) told me that I was northwest of boi and heading northwest. I told him that my position was no where near where he was painting me. After I did an 'identify' he still insisted I was northwest of boi. I again verified my position with two VOR's three INS, one magnetic compass and one sunrise I was looking at. Shortly after crossing byi, I was correctly idented. You can well image what a dangerous situation this could develop into.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RADAR CTLR INSISTED ACR X WAS NAV ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X 48 MI W OF BYI VOR ATC (SLC CTR) TOLD ME THAT I WAS NW OF BOI AND HDG NW. I TOLD HIM THAT MY POS WAS NO WHERE NEAR WHERE HE WAS PAINTING ME. AFTER I DID AN 'IDENT' HE STILL INSISTED I WAS NW OF BOI. I AGAIN VERIFIED MY POS WITH TWO VOR'S THREE INS, ONE MAG COMPASS AND ONE SUNRISE I WAS LOOKING AT. SHORTLY AFTER XING BYI, I WAS CORRECTLY IDENTED. YOU CAN WELL IMAGE WHAT A DANGEROUS SITUATION THIS COULD DEVELOP INTO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.