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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1646360 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201905 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Aeronca Champion |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Other Traffic pattern/downwind |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Engineer Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 280 Flight Crew Total 29850 Flight Crew Type 300 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 300 Vertical 0 |
Narrative:
I was instructing in a 7AC without an electrical system or a radio. We had been in the traffic pattern for about 30 minutes and were on our sixth pattern. We were on the downwind leg of a published right hand pattern; approaching the departure end of runway 13; at a popular grass strip airport. I pointed out to my student a low wing aircraft that was approaching from our right. We continued to fly our published right hand downwind expecting the aircraft to change his/her flight path. When the other aircraft was too close for comfort I took controls of the aircraft and flew an escape maneuver to avoid a collision.I spoke with the other pilot privately about the incident. He insists that he did nothing wrong and that he had the right of way. I explained that we were already in the traffic pattern and he was entering from a crosswind against the published traffic pattern entry procedures established in FAA AC 90-66B; non-towered airport operations. He looked at me with a blank stare. I asked him to please be more vigilant while operating at any non-towered airport. This airport is popular with all types of aircraft as it is one of a very few public grass strips and has a restaurant on the field. There are several aircraft that regularly fly into this airport without radios. My aircraft is one of those so I am extremely vigilant in looking for other aircraft. Other threats at this airport that must be mitigated besides radio out aircraft are aircraft flying low passes; one direction of the runway having a significant upslope and aircraft landing/departing opposite directions due to the upslope runway. These threats are mitigated on a daily basis as long as everyone exercises vigilance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 7AC pilot reported an NMAC with another light aircraft in the pattern at a non-towered airport.
Narrative: I was instructing in a 7AC without an electrical system or a radio. We had been in the traffic pattern for about 30 minutes and were on our sixth pattern. We were on the downwind leg of a published right hand pattern; approaching the departure end of Runway 13; at a popular grass strip airport. I pointed out to my student a low wing aircraft that was approaching from our right. We continued to fly our published right hand downwind expecting the aircraft to change his/her flight path. When the other aircraft was too close for comfort I took controls of the aircraft and flew an escape maneuver to avoid a collision.I spoke with the other pilot privately about the incident. He insists that he did nothing wrong and that he had the right of way. I explained that we were already in the traffic pattern and he was entering from a crosswind against the published traffic pattern entry procedures established in FAA AC 90-66B; Non-towered airport operations. He looked at me with a blank stare. I asked him to please be more vigilant while operating at any non-towered airport. This airport is popular with all types of aircraft as it is one of a very few public grass strips and has a restaurant on the field. There are several aircraft that regularly fly into this airport without radios. My aircraft is one of those so I am extremely vigilant in looking for other aircraft. Other threats at this airport that must be mitigated besides radio out aircraft are aircraft flying low passes; one direction of the runway having a significant upslope and aircraft landing/departing opposite directions due to the upslope runway. These threats are mitigated on a daily basis as long as everyone exercises vigilance.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.