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Flight crew of medium large transport on ILS approach to jac, wy, did not follow procedure turn as outlined on approach plate.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 163284 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199011 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : jac |
| State Reference | WY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 980 |
| ASRS Report | 163284 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 162982 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Flying ILS 18 approach into jac both copilot and I after looking at approach plates determined procedure turn was not required. Center reminded us on landing that in fact it was. We then reviewed approach and saw that the route from the feeder fix did not state 'no pt'. Even the basics need review.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG ON ILS APCH TO JAC, WY, DID NOT FOLLOW PROC TURN AS OUTLINED ON APCH PLATE.
Narrative: FLYING ILS 18 APCH INTO JAC BOTH COPLT AND I AFTER LOOKING AT APCH PLATES DETERMINED PROC TURN WAS NOT REQUIRED. CTR REMINDED US ON LNDG THAT IN FACT IT WAS. WE THEN REVIEWED APCH AND SAW THAT THE RTE FROM THE FEEDER FIX DID NOT STATE 'NO PT'. EVEN THE BASICS NEED REVIEW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.