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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 163107 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199011 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dvt |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dvt tower : ftw |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 9 |
| ASRS Report | 163107 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X departed runway 7R, northbound. Small aircraft Y departed runway 7L, left traffic. Both aircraft on upwind. Small aircraft Y is further east. I told small aircraft X, 'traffic, small aircraft Y ahead to your left on upwind remaining in left traffic, begin left turn now.' small aircraft X acknowledged and had traffic in sight. Small aircraft X turned north and small aircraft Y began his left crosswind. As small aircraft Y began a left turn to the downwind, I issued traffic to him: 'traffic, small aircraft X ahead, to your left, northbound, will pass above you.' the situation looked ok, so I diverted my attention to the traffic in the south pattern. Approximately 1 min later the instrument in small aircraft Y said they had the traffic 'now, he just passed over the top of us and that was way too close.' small aircraft Y and small aircraft X pilots then had their own conversation on the frequency, for 4 or 5 xmissions each, about how close they thought they were.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA X HAD NMAC WITH SMA Y. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: SMA X DEPARTED RWY 7R, NBND. SMA Y DEPARTED RWY 7L, LEFT TFC. BOTH ACFT ON UPWIND. SMA Y IS FURTHER E. I TOLD SMA X, 'TFC, SMA Y AHEAD TO YOUR LEFT ON UPWIND REMAINING IN LEFT TFC, BEGIN LEFT TURN NOW.' SMA X ACKNOWLEDGED AND HAD TFC IN SIGHT. SMA X TURNED N AND SMA Y BEGAN HIS LEFT XWIND. AS SMA Y BEGAN A LEFT TURN TO THE DOWNWIND, I ISSUED TFC TO HIM: 'TFC, SMA X AHEAD, TO YOUR LEFT, NBND, WILL PASS ABOVE YOU.' THE SITUATION LOOKED OK, SO I DIVERTED MY ATTN TO THE TFC IN THE S PATTERN. APPROX 1 MIN LATER THE INSTR IN SMA Y SAID THEY HAD THE TFC 'NOW, HE JUST PASSED OVER THE TOP OF US AND THAT WAS WAY TOO CLOSE.' SMA Y AND SMA X PLTS THEN HAD THEIR OWN CONVERSATION ON THE FREQ, FOR 4 OR 5 XMISSIONS EACH, ABOUT HOW CLOSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.